Gay marriage

I'm for gay marrigae , what is your opinion on it ?

 

I'm for it to.

Religion should be removed from all matters involving the state.

Religion and State should remain seperate and distinct. I note that the state can't do anything about polygamy when your religion says it's fine even though it is against Christian rules. So why should those same biggoted christian rules be applied to other none christians

FNG

 

Why is the church against gay marrigae anyways ? , they say if gays get married it will increase divorce rates , populations are getting larger , and to say divorce rates will go up , they might as well keep all new couples from marrying, denying someone a right to marry just because opposite sex couple divorce like liz taylor isn't a reason to deny someone a right just because their different , and i've seen the bible and it says no where in the book about gays not being allowed to marry.

 

Marrage according to the church is the union of a Man and a Woman.

Sex outside marrage is wrong in the Church's eyes.

Therefore they can condone any type of platonic relationship but can only condone sex between men and women who are married to each other.

FNG

 

It is the next step, isn't it? Western countries have moved from arranged to free marriage over the last few centuries, and now this should be expanded to a completely open choice of all candidates, not just those of the opposite sex.

If the only reason to oppose gay marriage is religious, then there's not really an issue, and states and governments should be busy devoting their attention to much more important things. Why is it not an issue if it's a religious one? Because a religion is your own choice, and therefore religious people may never, ever be given the ability to impose their views on social issues on the rest of the society they live in, even if they form a majority in it. Either you choose in favour of a certain religion with all its limitations and values, or you don't and there will be nothing that will force you to accept the same limitations and values - in the ideal situation. Law, as FNG said, should be completely separate from all religion.

 

Tell Bush that! Blair is just a bad.

All organised religions suck. I have the utmost respect for religious people and especially their faith.

But the second you make religion a business, and lets face it, organised religion is a business with share holders and board members wanting to make a profit, PR trying to protect it's image and lawyers protecting the brand it all starts to fail.

FNG

 

I too am for gay marrage, it leaves more birds for me. LOL

 

im in a gay marriage..i am a lesbian trapped inside a mans body and my wife is a homosexual man trapped inside a womans body.

and i can tell you that it works for us just fine!

 

I think gay marriage is repulsive! Marriage is a union between a man and a woman. Since we are bringing religion into it, God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. That'll probably stir up some crap but you asked what I thought.

 

gays

gay marriage is unnatural, and it's not right. and it's better for a child to be raised in a home where there is a Man and a Woman and the goverment should try to do what is best for the child and it's better for the child to be raised in a normal marriage.

 

I really don't care what gays do as long as they keep their agenda to themselves and not jam it down the collective public throat.

 

Your views on mariage are based purely on christianity.

Why should you impose your views on people who aren't christians?

How would you feel if someone elses religious views were forcably imposed on you? No alcohol? No meat? Aranged marrage?

Gay relations throughout history have happened and at times were encouraged by certain cultures/religions. It is wrong to believe that you are right and use christianity as the basis of your rightousness

FNG

 

But they enjoy having it rammed down the throat. :lol:

 

Well, if it helps making them happy....

I cannot however really understand why they insist so much on the term "marriage", as law already grants them other forms of partnership that give them more or less the same rights as married couples.

They probably hope that the fact of being "married" will ultimately grant them parenting rights, which I think would not be a very good idea....

 

Unfortunatly the Law doesn't give a lot of same sex couple any rights.

Only this year has the English Law provided whats called Civil Partnership agreements which do in effect act as if a couple are married. But a lot of countries don't have such laws.

The implications in financial terms can be horrific especially to high earners or where death results in a claim on insurance or for negligence.

A gay mans sole and lifelong partner of 40 years would be treated no better or worse than if the the partner was just his mate from the pub. In the UK he would be subject to inheritance tax which is 40% of all assets (including property and shares etc) over £250K. This could and does result in the loss of the family home. It also prevents the transfer of pension rights and claims on life insurance which apply to spouse only.

Does America have any such civil partnership laws or does it vary by state?

As for rights of adoption/child bearing, well thats a different and far more compex arguement. But I bet most of you don't object to two lesbians bringing up a child where one is the actual birth mother. Frankly what you object to is male to male sex which you think is disgusting, wrong and in some cases evil as well as corrupting on a young persons mind.

But it's wrong to place your prejadices on other people whilst accusing them of being a corrupting and possable contagious influance on those around them.

Gayness is neither contagious nor brain washing.

FNG

 

trouble with civil partnerships for same sex cpls s being propsed by the govt is that they do not extend the same rights to hetrosexual couples..so effectvely a gay non married cpl will have more rights than an hetrosexaul non married cpl which is reverse discrimination anf shows oonce again how the minorities are pandered to at the expense of the majority!

 

I just knew somebody would have a smartass comment to make.

 

Rubbish. It's the government bottling out of the right decision which was to
a - allow gay couple to marry as per none gay couples
or
b - remove all elements of religion from all marrages.

As it is the government wants marraige to remain a union of man and woman under the eyes of god, but needs to allow gay couple the same rights.

FNG

 

The bible is a collection of stories , mostly fiction and they are there to help people with troubled situations and to guide them through life , but some people take this stuff literally and now look what happens , and i've read the bible , , and there is nothing about gay marriage ! , god teaches love and compassion not hate and discrimaination , hate and discrimation is a work of satan , so your not really supporting god , and this thing about gay marriage theres no political elements in it , it's all religous , and religion is seperated by state , so this really shouldn't be brought up in parliament or congress or whatever.

 

Why can't gay couples parent children , what are you afraid of ? , that the kid will go to school wearing a tutu. This is no different when blacks and women tried to get their rights , it is now the homosexual communities turn to fight ignorance and foolishness.