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Generals who disobeyed Hitler?

Discussion in 'Leaders of World War 2' started by me262 phpbb3, Feb 23, 2004.

  1. me262 phpbb3

    me262 phpbb3 New Member

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    General Cholchyts, I do not remember exactly the spelling, was ordered by Hitler to burn Paris, he desobey him and surrendered to the allies
     
    me262 phpbb3, Feb 23, 2004
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    Von Clowitz, I believe, is the correct spelling.
     
    corpcasselbury, Feb 24, 2004
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    Together with von Manstein's brilliance this resulted in the recapture of Kharkov a few weeks later and the salvation of the entire southern front in Russia.

    A shame for the Germans that Paulus didn't do the same at Stalingrad and attempted a breakout. It would have succeeded if they did it early enough.
     
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    Possibly. Much depends on the reacion of the Russians to the attempted breakout.
     
    corpcasselbury, May 15, 2004
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    His name was Von Choltitz. He was the garrison commander of Paris, and he seemed to agree with the Allies that there should not be a city battle for it...

    I have a copy of the letter which was handed to von Choltitz by Leclerc, in which it is summarized just what the commande was surrendering. A very interesting document. See if I still have it somewhere...
     
    Roel, May 16, 2004
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    I stand corrected. Thank you, Roel. :)
     
    corpcasselbury, May 17, 2004
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    Claus Von Stauffenberg
     
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    Could anyone have disobeyed him more? :D On the other had, had Hitler ordered anyone not to assasinate him? Because if not and I think he didn't, the attmept on Hitler's live would not qualify as disobedience. :D Now there's a view you don't expect...
     
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    Just a small disagreement. LOL

    Ouch that hurt.
     
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    Why not Stauffenberg ? GP ?
     
    Ritterkreuz, Jul 20, 2004
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    We were just joking. Of course Von Stauffenberg is the worst of all disobedient German generals... It was just a rather obvious one.
     
    Roel, Jul 20, 2004
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    Von Stauffenberg was a colonel, not a general.
     
    corpcasselbury, Jul 22, 2004
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    Commander, whatever! Sheesh! :D
     
    Roel, Jul 23, 2004
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    We do strive for accuracy here, Roel. ;)
     
    corpcasselbury, Aug 3, 2004
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    there was a general on the eastern front either 1944 or 45 cant remember his name if someone can would be a great help, who flattly refused to let thousands of men be encircled by the russians, and told hitler to his face to basically stick his order up his a** , to the point where he said u can have me shot now but i wont let my men die a needless death.

    anyone know who it was? could go and look it up but i cant be bothered?
     
    cheeky_monkey, Aug 6, 2004
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