Discussion in 'World War 2 Hobbies' started by Boba Nette, Nov 9, 2004.
I think this has been brought up before on this forum - the entire page is filled with errors.
Really?What are they?BTE,what is the vehicle that looks like the Allied Buffalo landing craft?
A fine French link with paint schemes.
I would have thought you'd approve Christian - it cals it the
Jagdpanzer 38(t) SdKfz 138/2 "Hetzer"
Are any of the errors related to the colour schemes? (That is the only part of use to me - I only read English!)
Which one is that??
The schemes themselve are erroneous too. For example, all of the vehicles prior to 1940-06-12 are painted overall Dunkelgrau (it should have a 1/3 Dunkelbraun overspray), and vehicles prior to 1938-11-07 are also Dunkelgrau only (between 1937-07-19 and 1938-11-07, only new vehicles or vehicles which needed repainting should be painted in the DUnkelgrau/Dunkelbraun camouflage, otherwise they would have the Buntfarbenanstrich patter, consisting of RAL Nr.17 Erdgelb-matt, Nr.18 Braun-matt and Nr.28 Grün-matt).
Some vehicles are also completely fictional, such as the Porsche Jagdtiger - no Porsche Jagdtiger was painted like this.
This is about as accurate as a two-year-old child's colour-by-numbers paintings.
I'm pretty sure I've seen the first one before some time ago. Looks pretty nice, must say, only a bit small so you can't really use it as a painting scheme. But it's good for a general idea.
The second is new to me. Don't really know what to think of it though.
That is the level of detailing in the Combat Mission series of PC games.
Now just maybe when you were two years old you were painting tank camouflage schemes, but I think this site was made by someone who simply doesn't have time for or access to all the documents required to get it entirely accurate. Some mercy!
They had the time to rip off all the drawings from various books, and post them online - making an article based on quality sources would both be far faster, more accurate and eventually not illegal either (which the site above is).
What about this one, Christian ? Is this authentic ? I scanned it from an old "Armor in Action". It does look a bit dodgy to me, but then again, you never know.
If this Sturmgeschütz was manufactured prior to 1944-08-19, it would have been painted in the field in a pattern of Olivgrün, Rotbraun and Dunkelgelb/Dunkelgelb nach Muster (not all the camouflage colours were always applied) over the Dunkelgelb/Dunkelgelb nach Muster base. Thus, any patter could theoretically be possible, however I cannot say I've seen it before.
The colours themselves are another matter, though. The chance of just one of the colours being displayed correctly (or at least as close as possible on a computer monitor) is 16,777,216 to one, and the chance of all three colour being correct is 4,722,366,482,869,645,213,696 to one.
The chance of the colours being displayed correctly in the book is infinitely small.
TTS: The Turtle Scene! I like it, never seen something like this before.
Doing the maths again, are we ? :grin: :wink:
I can´t argue with that, but I was thinking primarily about the pattern. It is very decorative indeed, but I can´t see how it would be very effective unless the tank stood in front of an enormous turtle.
So you don't know about the Gepanzerte Schildkröte mit 12,8 cm Pak L/55, which was a two meter tall turtle, indoctrinated into the National Socialist belief, and used as an anti-tank platform?
Skua, that is a gap in your knowledge. They had a whole regiment of those turtles. This StuG must have been a support weapon for assaults. The crews always had to be careful not to outrun their turtle support! :grin:
Did you know the Maus was designed as a replacement when the Nazis ran out of turtles? :lol:
Holy mother of.......... Christian is the color that important..!!!!!!
I think if they just get the basics of the color right then that's ok, but the pattern is the most important factor for me though. Offcourse the color has to be right to, but for me dark-green is dark-green, and light-green is light-green. I dont see the meaning in looking after a color that cant be seen by the naked eye, and has to be put behind a telescope.
Hey Christian,how is the site illegal?Just curious.
It has scanned a lot of artwork from various books, all of which are covered by copyright.