German speakers ,Süterling writing experts needed.

Who could help me to identfy this writing of Gefreiter Schreiner . It's WW1 . I bought this online from a seller who claims it is German, but I beleive this could be an Austro-Hungarian soldier . The writing is in Süterling so I'm having a hard time with this goodie.

 

Bump .....

 

Have you posted at ww2talk.com?

 

No, to be honest I have not registered there yet. I speak German and I usually can get along with Süterling handwriting too, but this one is a tough matter. I'm sure most German would have a hell of a time too .

 

First word right page : 'Notitzbuch' Thats all i can do for you right now. Lol. Difficult to read.

 

http://www.suetterlinschrift.de/Englisch/Sutterlin.htm

Might help...

 

Damn , do I have to go back to school now? I never realised this was only taught from 1915 until 1941. My text is from 1916

 

Last two on right page:
Etappeninspection im Osten

'Etappeninspektionen' (staff of the armies)


See also:
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/deutsch/archiv/weltkampf/wer0717.html


and
http://lithuania.jkaptein.nl/ww1_01.html

 

and i guess on the right page after '2' means abreviation of 'kompanie' : 2. Komp.

 

Thanks Ruud, I now have about the first page figured out .


I also have 2 Komp. (Kompanie) and possibly Btln (battaillon) . I have a hard time with the word above the Ettapen line

 

Right page, got it ! (well =almost lol )

Notitzbuch
Für
Gefreiter Schreiner
2. komp
Garde Landsturm Batl.
Fehrbellin

makes sense doesnt it:
http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Milit%C3%A4r/Formationsgeschichte/Deutschland/Erster_Weltkrieg/Landsturm

 

Damn, your right it is the Garde . Awesome Ruud, I will scan another page later today. Thanks a lot!

 

thanks ! And many thanks to my son who's handwriting is a mix of Süterling/Hieroglyphs/doctors handwriting/talent of his own. I took a lot of practice in decoding what he writes at school, but on the other hand: he is only 7 years old and he doesnt understand German (yet)

 

Another page, it seems to be a name list , possibly the guard turns or patrols . Sorry it's pencil written so quite hard to read.


I have Stefani Schützko ( a Hamburg area name) and Mordlo Tarno . I also read a third name :Anisimovitsch . Those names are eastern European, so possibly Silezians or East Prussians with Polish or Russian ancestry.

 

it is a German handwriting that was used invented by Mr Süterling in 1865. It was became a very poular handwriting in Germany duirng WW1 and WW2 because only the Germans could read it , so it was like a sort of code. (a sort of written windtalkers). It was taught at German schools until 1940 and was forbidden by the allies in 1945 because the censors couldn't read the pow mail!

 

ah, come on Skipper! you picked the easy ones already out. It would have been a good practice for Jeff to help.

 

It's really hard I'm afraid and there are abreviations on top of it