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Greatest War Crime ?

Discussion in 'WWII General' started by Panzerknacker, Jul 9, 2007.

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What was the greatest of these WW2 war crimes?

  1. Unit 731 - Japanese biological experimentation on Allied POWs

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  2. Lidice Massacre, Czechoslovakia

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  3. Malmedy Massacre - cold blooded killing of 81 US POWs

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  4. Crimean Massacre - Einsatzkommando program 1942-1945

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  5. General Japanese mistreatment of Allied POWs

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  6. General German mistreatment of Soviet POWs

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  7. A4 euthanasia program

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  8. Soviet mistreatment of German POWs 1945-1956

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  9. Any and all forced 'death marches'

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  1. Panzerknacker

    Panzerknacker New Member

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    Several moments in WW2 that are to be remembered as despicable acts of depravity. I have purposely left out the Holocaust as I feel that is a hands down winner for greatest war crime, and would not accurately depict the greater horrors of WW2.
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  2. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    I guess the Germans during the first year of barbarossa got several millions of Soviet POWs killed so in numbers I guess that could be no 1.

    In cruelty perhaps the top prize goes to the japanese biological weapon development branch.
     
  3. von Poop

    von Poop Waspish

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    I have some trouble with this being a poll, the list can never be long enough and any overlooked one is a problem.
    Oradour-sur-Glane for instance is not on the list, nor Katyn, nor any other small cruelty that might not have occurred without the surrounding chaos of war. If I've got to vote on worst, then I'd possibly either go for every single one of them, or none, to avoid too many moral comparisons.

    The Malmedy one's always interesting though, still far too much uncertainty over what went on there, butchery and general misbehaviour on all sides seems quite likely. The peculiar nature of the investigation & trial probably means we'll never really know.
    It also veers into the very difficult area of what's acceptable in war, and is anything involving military personnel in action really unacceptable?... but that's a hugely complicated moral debate that makes my brain hurt. :panic:

    Excellent site on such grim events of the war here:
    George Duncan's Massacres and Atrocities of World War II
    Well worth a shufti, the sheer length of each page really brings it home how much 'irregular' killing was going on. :mad:

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    Adam.
     
  4. Richard

    Richard Expert

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    I feel very uncomfortable with polls of this nature as it seems to me trivialising the dark side of human nature as all crimes against Jews, P.O.W's and civilians are sickening and distasteful.

    Panzerknacker, I am not having a go at you it's just how I feel on this matter.
     
  5. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    This is one poll I'll steer clear of.

    IMPO war itself is possibly the greatest obscenity ; under its influence and conditions certain elements on all 'sides' allow themselves to do dreadful things to fellow-humans.
     
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  6. PzJgr

    PzJgr Drill Instructor

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    I agree with Adam. There are many that are missing and can one crime be more hanous than another. I selected the Crimean Massacre which not only happened in the Crimea but other places as well by other countries as well. It represents the brutality of mankind towards the innocent because of discrimination.

    BTW, it is now to see a poll again.
     
  7. Sloniksp

    Sloniksp Ставка

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    I agree, in cruelty probably the Japanese... However I voted for the Russians in German hands simply for the numbers in which they parished. Stavation, is a terrible way to die. The sad part is how quickly this is forgoten or down played.
     
  8. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

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    Man. This leaves out so many. Kaytin Forest (massacre of the Polish officer corps) by the Soviets for example. Atrocities like this should not be ranked. They are all equally dispicable.
     
  9. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    How can we pick one horror over another? I'm not voting.
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I agree with you, Za. I just can't choose one over an other.
     
  11. Iroh

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    I vote for the General German mistreatment of Soviet POWs, because i think the Germany capture a million number of the Soviet POWs in the 1941-42, it must be difficult to manage such a number
     
  12. Richard

    Richard Expert

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    Nor am I.
     
  13. Nailbender

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    I have to pass on this one.
     
  14. skunk works

    skunk works Ace

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    Lesser of Evils a choice ?....pass
     
  15. Otto

    Otto Spambot Nemesis Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    This is one poll where the non-voters give a better account of things than the voters.

    How do you compare atrocities? I'm not sure it is even possible. I've always felt the circumstances around Lidice were particularly heinous, but there is no way to 'rate' one war crime against another.
     
  16. tikilal

    tikilal Ace

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    Dont forget the firebombing of Dresden and Tokyo.

    After this though my thoughts end with war in general. Maybe this is why most of the war crimes trials had to do with starting the war.
     
  17. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    How does one compare Lidice to Oradour-sur-Glane?
     
  18. Col. Hessler

    Col. Hessler Member

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    I don't see how you can compare a bombing run with some like say The Rape of Nanking.
     
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  19. tikilal

    tikilal Ace

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    Killing hundreds of thousands of people is not a simple bombing run, especially when you keep dropping bombs on the inferno for days. The intent was to kill CIVILLIANS. Nanking was bad, but all I said was not to forget the firebombing.
     
  20. Otto

    Otto Spambot Nemesis Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    My point exactly Za. The aspects of scale, method and hideousness of such events are impossible to hold up to a scale.
     

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