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Discussion in 'Uniforms, Personal Gear (Kit) and Accessories' started by Natman, Jan 29, 2010.

  1. sniper1946

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    Thanks for posting the key word, Ray, I'll get into that after work. I have to say the modeler did a great job on the coat and all the weathering he applied. The coats the three guys are wearing sure look bulky. Probably good for guard duty but it would be tough trying to move fast in them.
     
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    thanks steve,let me know how you get on,keep looking for more coats,regards,ray..
     
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    Dont know too much about originality of these coats Ray ,just that ive seen several rabbit furs pass bye over the years I never bought one of those rabbitfurries but they might be the real thing ,although they look anything but military ..the stamps are the only connection to the 3rd reich as far I can say ..but theyre never long on sale , collectors here do seem keen on them .
    They always seem to have that smelly 'I sat in a polar birch-bush for weeks without soap ' looks too wich makes me not that keen on putting an item like them in my living room really , Im afraid they might still carrie WW2 nazi fleas or even worse :)
    Doubt a rzm stamp in one of these will be genuine

    the type Skip's pic shows I never seen ..the furs i tried to describe seem like unfinished overcoats , long , very rough , in a style you'dd expect to be worn by modern back to nature-glastonbury-festival-have-a-magicmushroom people ..these lack the folded collar the wachtmantel shows though ;)
     
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    good find clark,another wachmantel pic...:)
     
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    Excited about finding this photo. First evidence I've seen of other Americans wearing the same coat. These guys are most likely members of the 549th AAA AW Bn (Btry. D), attached to the 87th Infantry Division. Taken at Echternach, Luxembourg in March, 45. The 607th was attached to the 87th at this time. US Army Signal Corp photo courtesy of Mr. Preston Durrer, 87th Infantry Division Legacy Association Webmaster.
     

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    nice find steve, where there is some, you will surely find more, well done, ray..
     
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    Found some more photos in my Dad's collection. The guy in Wadgassen was his friend "Brownie". Not sure where the other one was taken but it appears to be the same guy (Brownie?) as in my original post. Wadgassen and the AA guys in Echternach are approximately 150 miles apart so I would say there was more than one source for these coats.
     

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    Hello Ray, I had seen the "warrelics" site post before, looked like a good book. Have never been able to locate a copy, not sure if it was ever published or maybe not available in the US? The original poster Vincent doesn't seem to be around anymore.
     
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    another coat pic steve.. [​IMG]
     
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    Good find Ray. They keep turning up!
     
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    well done steve, they keep popping up, thanks for posting, keep em coming, ray..
     
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    Another to add steve..
     
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    Hi Sniper,

    i have seen such an coat at some pics, but as far as i know is this an civilian coat.
    Normaly they had the thin cloth coat.

    Sorry i forgot that some units had an official Wintercoat for the guardians. They had to share the coat with their comrades.
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    Heer night Wachmantels ulrich..see previous posts, ray.
     
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    Uups! First read than post!:eek:

    Sorry!

    Regards

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