How Much did the Germans Know?

Your 'weakness' is your strenght my friend. This is the most powerfull post I've read here. Bastards knew everything,tothelast dirtiest detail. Knowledge about mass murders, gassing people, rapes,slaughter was the driving force of the Nazi Germany. People knew, the Führer isn't just talking, he was turning their wildest Schadenwunsche into reality. They loved the Führer because he gave them Auschwitz. Dirty simple little bastards.

 

Hate to be a stickler for details here in this hot and heavy thread, but the 6 million count of Jews who were annihilated in the holocaust is thrown around quite a bit. Not to demean their horrendous loss, but there were 5-6 million others who met their fate in the camps as well. Gypsies, homosexuals, mental cases, communists, anti-nazis, Slavs, Poles, priests, nuns and a host of others (just to name a few million or so) who fit under the "other" category as undesirables or enemies of the Fatherland. Lets not forget these folks either. Not sure if the handful of millions of Russian POWs are included in that count, but needless to say there was a lot of misery to be spread around at the fault of the nazis and those who collaborated willingly and shamelessly.

 

Your absolutely right.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YAcoDkj_dI

 

Actually, thanks, that was a very good jab in the ribs. You're, of course, very correct.

 

To this list one can add Resistance fighters, civilian hostages, Partisans, some priests, prostitutes, prison inmates, Socialists, Nacht und Nebel deported, freemacons "antisocials" and so many others. In fact whover did not fit in the Nazi utopia.

 

One of our Dutch members is writing a book on LAH. I'm following his progress on Facebook and recently he posted about a conversation some of the troopers had about Babi Yar on a train - 30,000 Jews rounded up and shot in a ravine near Kiev. Just soldier chit-chat and a bit of amazement at the numbers killed in one place. LAH wasn't even in involved in that, but the news was discussed openly across the entire army group. Think about that. These massacres were known to every soldier on the eastern front. Most of them saw such massacres, even if on a smaller scale. Four or five million German soldiers fought or rotated through the front and It's ridiculous to think that many of them didn't discuss this on leave.

One might also look at the millions of slave laborers brought back to Germany and rented out to farms, industry and business. Those from the east were very badly treated and these bruised and beaten scarecrows were being housed and marched through every town in Germany.

The German people knew. They used those slaves. They profited from those slaves.

 

KB, you bring up a point that reaches a little deeper into the German peoples' chants of "I didn't know, I had nothing to do with it." The profiteering, whether it was industrialists making financial gains or of substantial military hardware gains, the population profited immensely from slave labor. This site breaks it down nicely.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/germancos.html

Not only were the German people practicing the sickest form of immorality, but profiting from it as well.

From Wiki:

"At its peak the forced labourers comprised 20% of the German work force. Counting deaths and turnover, about 15 million men and women were forced labourers at one point or another during the war."

 

Snowden conten moved to Free Fire Zone under Justice for Snowden.

 

Is that good or bad?

 

There was concern in the US over slavery even in the late 1700's rather conflicted in some cases though. Jefferson for instance wanted to outlaw the practice yet kept his own slaves (although he freed them in his will). Not sure just how much was known about the details though in the non slave states. I do know that descriptions of it in Uncle Tom's Cabin was enough to raise considerable new oppostion to it. In Germany at the time objecting or even trying to publisise such information could be unhealthy where it was an increasingly common occurance in the US up to the Civil War.