Re-posing a promising thread started by Gothvain - slightly edited to stay within our Moderators control limitations. I have oft thought along this line - about posting this "what if" scenario. My focus on keeping this forum alive with topical WW2 topics has stopped me from meandering off topic with items such as this. ________________ Let's assume that Moscow was taken in 1941 and the the Soviets surrendered, followed closely by "peace" between the other Allies and the Axis Powers. France's government is replaced with a National Socialist puppet government. Norway is given the same treatment as France. Sweden finally breaks its streak of neutrality by forming a military alliance with Germany (not formally joining the Axis). Germany annexes Western Poland and what the Soviets had taken of Poland, the areas of Lithuania Germany had claims on, the areas lost to France as a result of WWI (the border region of France and Germany). The Germans also annex Denmark and thereby obtain it's overseas colonies (Iceland and Greenland), and these are later reformed as puppet nations. Germany pulls out of any occupied nations that are not annexed as a result of the peace, including France, Belgium, and the Netherlands. Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia are reformed as sovereign nations who's people idolize Adolf Hitler as their savior. Italy annexes Greece. Japan replaces China's government with a puppet government and annexes Communist China into this new China. I am wondering how global politics would change as a result of these events, and what kinds of weapons would have been made after this peace (I doubt that the Tiger or Panther would look exactly the same, if they exist at all in this alternate universe). ________________ Apple Ologies Gothvain - I thought the Mods were being a bit rough on you, but they are reluctant to edit where an improved thread could be started in a better sub forum as done here.