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Japanese bloody killed abuse European POWS during the world war 2.

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    ciwocw Dishonorably Discharged

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    Japanese bloody killed abuse European POWS during the world war 2.According to the British "Daily Mail" reported on 6th, the Far East fighting were more brutal than people think in world war 2, the British historian Max Hastings's book, "Revenge: Fight to Japan (1944-1945) ", disclosed the Western Allies what a shock after discovered the Japanese abuse European POWS.That was January 1945, the British Army 14th Division across the border to Mandalay, Myanmar, In a victory, they found a lot of evidence that the Japanese abuse of prisoners. some British soldiers had been stripped of boots, with wire wrapped around a tree upside down, cool beaten to death. This is further stimulated the British hatred of the Japanese soldiers. In the UK, the Japanese proved to abuse POWS far beyond the battlefield. Those lucky to escape pows , tell about more extreme brutal Japanese abuse European POWS stories, and British politicians and officials fear the Japanese will be intensified retaliatory torture those European POWS who are still in their hands. Don't let these scandals completely exposed.




    In 1942, the famous "Bataan Death March", many of U.S. POWS were killed, European pilots were brutally beheaded, the U.S. government hide for several months before the witness's testimony was public . Allied officials reluctant to admit situation so bad, until January 1945, a so-called Foreign Affairs Committee concluded only in some remote areas have the phenomenon of abuse POWS.Just a few weeks later, a large number UK and Australia POWS release from Myanmar and Philippinesthe , counter with their own experience, At that time the officials involved in release of all POWS were shocked to their environment: where hunger prevails, disease prevalence, tens of thousands of prisoners died due to overwork, or because of minor breaches add to torture or beheading death. a quarter of POWS was be killed in Japanese prison camps. Japanese do exactly the same like Nazis do with Jews and Russian, but the United States, Britain and Australia publics are still very shocked, even in the situation at that time, can't understand Japanese flagrant violation of European human rights.The begin of Pacific War, the Philippines, the Netherlands East Indies, Hong Kong, Malaysia and Myanmar and other places have been occupied by Japan army.Many Allied soldiers became Japanese prisoners . When the surrender prisoners were being detained in Manila, Singapore, Hong Kong or Rangoon waiting ruling, they absolutely didn't expect to the hell waiting for them.A Japanese war correspondent who described the U.S. POWS he saw - "a group from the arrogant nation, they had to accept the Imperial Japanese military contempt. "When I see them, feel they are just a group of mixed hybrid offspring, had no dignity, and Japanese soldiers look handsome, I'm proud of myself as Japanese." "Those who didn't eat were first batch of the dead," Paul Luolutesi corporal said, "I bury a lot of people look stronger than I am, because I never refuse eat any thing. One time, Australian Peter Snow found an inch long maggot in foods.he just simply said:" a little beauty, go away. "" We have to imagine them as Christmas pudding, raisins, or What other good things.


    A shipyard in Osaka, two hungry British POWS eat a big tub of lard, which is used to lubricate sewer, so prior to adding arsenic, two POWS so lost their lives. Thomson in his private diary reads: "Every day we are a walking day by day. Drived to do this and that, I learned to had no any hope of life, no longer have any feelings." Yangon Stephen Peter from Philip camp wrote: "We have become heartless, ruthless, people who often bet on who will next to die. Of course, must try to save the sick, but when the inevitable doom , only sadness no useful " Who would not care about self-esteem. Prisoners will face own incompetence everyday. Rosen had seen Japan soldiers kicked USA POW into a toilet pit: "When you have to accept these things, you truly feel the taste of defeat." Almost every European POWS in later years, watching their comrades had been beaten by Japanese soldiers. even been killed. They feel ashamed about indifferent, They hate bowed to each Japanese soldier everday, no matter how low rank he is, slightly irreverent will provoke fatal disaster. Japanese seem special hate for tall, Tall often must knee down to accept cane beaten and other penalties.







    One day, the pilot Fred Jackson worked on the coral island airport in Emu Bang Province.He saw the six UK officers were lined up , a Japanese officer, regardless any reason.Beat them down to the ground one by one. Phenomenon of the Japanese abuse POWS can be seen everywhere, In addition, there are so many beheadings and stabbed to death phenomenon.Japanese so cruel treated Allied POWS. Japanese abused Allied prisoners of war are well known. Allied prisoners in war camp in Japan's dead rate was 30%, German and Italian prisoners in camp less than 5% dead rate.For most appear weakness in the battle of the Westerners, Japanese also more contempt for them and brutal torture European POWS.
     
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    ciwocw Dishonorably Discharged

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    I am a Chinese. I don't encourage hate crime. May I ask a question.How the European view the When Japanese soldiers kill them,abuse them? Are they very fear Japanese ? or very hate them?
     
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    Bataan Death March
    In the course of the death march, the Japanese humiliated European POWS as human can, they weren't considers POWS as human beings, In their view, these U.S. soldiers should battle to dead or suicide. then can get Japanese respect. Become POWS were greatest shame for soldiers.
    Because suffering torture, even prisoners arrived at destination, large number USA POWS death or disability. The following story based on survivors, U.S. soldiers Allen tell us, he speak about death march with comrades experience.
    Violence Objective: collect money and revenge
    The Japanese soldiers escorting prisoners in march, looking for "souvenirs", not just U.S. soldiers' objects, if you see any American POWS who have something, especially money, they robbed. In the bloody battle of Bataan, U.S. soldiers will find Japanese items or coins as a souvenir from dead body. So when the Japanese soldiers found Japanese item from United States POWS, they will pull American POWS out, then never see them - Japanese think these American POWS killed their comrades.
    Allen tough walk, even though his body strong, he could not withstand torment. The course of the march, there were wounded U.S. soldiers and Filipino civilians Feishi join the march. They all do their best to adhere, but only few people can keep up with team.Perhaps the sun very hot, Japanese are anxiety. They become more and more fierce, more and more terrible. If people who goes slowly, Japanese think just poke a bayonet assault,the pain was not enough. Now soldiers have a poke to kill POWS. About walk one kilometer again, Allen saw a Filipino soldier twist in the dust, his stomach has been hurted by the Japanese soldiers, like a bloody gourd. Allen vomit out. Slowly, he saw the bodies of POWS everywhere, they bloody, curled up, some open eyes, as if blessing his comrades "Good Luck." Allen getting used to misery. (continue.....)

     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I realize that English is probably not your primary language, but could edit your post and break it up into paragraphs? As it is now, most are not going to want to read it. I sure didn't.

     
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    ciwocw Dishonorably Discharged

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    But I am very curiosity, These Japanese abuse European so cruel.
    But USA take Japan as so-call ally after world war 2. Are USA want use of Japan or other intention?
    It's unimaginable!
     
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    The American's idea was to teach the Japanese democracy by refashioning their country in the image of America. You could call it empire-building I suppose, since no other Allied country was allowed any input.
     
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    There are, in my opinion, two reasons Japan (and Germany) was not severely punished for its actions during the war.

    First is that before the ink was dry on the surrender papers the US and its western allies found themselves in a Cold War with the Soviet Union. Both Japan and Germany were vital to the economic survival of its respective region. They had to be put back on thier feet economicly as quickly as possible otherwise not only they but the nations who had fought them would suffer extreme hardship in the new Cold War between the US and USSR. To turn either nation into a pastoral wasteland for the sake of revenge would only harm US and her allies long term interests.


    The second reason has to due with American political nature. As a rule the American people do not stay mad at any former enemy for long. This is especially true if the US collectively feels that its honor has been served. At the beginning of our nation we fought two wars with Britain and see them aid the Confederacy, but would become its most devoted of allies over the last 100 plus years. Two wars would be fought with Germany, yet they have been our ally for nearly 3 generations now. America's bitterest and most personally destructive war, The American Civil War, has left the nation even more united than before. Japan and Germany surrendered Unconditionaly to the US, thus fulfilling our need for revenge beyond the need for anything else.


    America has it flaws, but it willingness to let the hate end with the final battle is one of our better virtues.
     
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    When countries go to war to solve their problems........one or both of the countries has made a mistake....the killing of the enemy becomes the goal to win the war........since war is such a grave mistake you can expect atrocities to result from making human beings engage in the brutal acts. Yet there are many honorable soldiers who simply perform for the love of their fellow men who are with them and at home. If these soldiers can overcome their emotions to find peace later with their old enemies....who are the rest of us not to find a way to at least match their honor by forgiving our enemies. Yes warfare brings on atrocities and we are correct to be against that......but we must also be honorable as our soldiers demonstrate with their forgiveness for their enemy. I believe MacArthur did wonders in his leadership of Japan into a peaceful nation and future economic power without the internal resources everyone thought they would have to have to just recover. Many years of Japan at peace with the rest of the world shows this nation chose a new way forward with the very hard work of the people of Japan to make it happen. I say that so you can compare the average length of a workday there with one from your own country so you can see what it takes to succeed. Perhaps some things were modeled after our own country but I would say there is much more from their own culture that was kept intact that contributed to their success in postwar recovery. MacArthur seemed to just know how much of this to mix to get the very best result.......just my opinion on that. I am opinionated with MacArthur since my teachers when I was very young made me realize he was made to move with his family from fortification to fortification on foot or by wagon across the multi-cultured lands of the Southwest and I think this brought him to a great wiseness, about the many cultures he may have met during his youth, while making those difficult moves with his military family.
     
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    U.S. war with Japan, 100 008 soldiers dead in battle. plus non-combat dead, U.S. soldiers 130,008 dead in pacific war. Australian troops 17,000 die in battle. British troops 36,000 die in fighting, and other Western countries, more than 10,000 killed in battle.
    Not include 50,000 India soldiers dead in battle, not including tens of thousands of Filipino soldiers and Malaysia soldiers,not include China expedition were killed in Myanmar. Japan killed western countries soldiers over more than 200,000 in pacific war.

    IN pacific war,Japanese land force 350,000 were killed in battle, Navy, 158000 were killed in battle.
     
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    Japanese Navy atrocities: slaughtered twenty thousand Australian and English soldiers. (part 1)

    British historian Felton new book "Marine Massacre: Japanese naval war crimes" will be publish on October 20. British "Daily Mail" disclosure partial of book. Felton pointed out during World War II, the Japanese navy trample "Geneva Convention", they massacre over 20,000 Allied sailors and many civilians, the crime is more horrible than Nazi German navy.Some of them committed serious crimes people haven't been punished, they alive.
    Encouraged massacre
    Book disclosed many new history materials, which show Japanese navy killed 12,500 British sailors and Australian 7,500 naval soldiers at least. Different with Nazi Germany,only a document showing a German submarine captain ordered massacre survivors of enemy navy, Japanese navy, killing order not only from higher command, and be encouraged.

    Felton said: "Japanese Navy signed a order in 1943,: 'To keep enemy's ships and cargo sunk, kill all enemy crew.'"

    He said: "Japan's navy sank a large number of Allied merchant ships, even Red Cross vessels, killing survivors of the lifeboat. Japanese rescued enemy pilots from sea, then tortured pilots to death. "
    "Japanese marines landed, raped and massacred civilians." Felton said, "I also found some Japanese naval doctors vivisection Allies POWS." ​
     
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    Japanese Navy atrocities: slaughtered twenty thousand Australian and English soldiers.(part 2)

    About tragic reality
    New book records the horrors of British sailor James. He was a telegrapher on Dutch cargo ship Tjisalakon. Ship sank by Japanese submarine I-8 in 1944. At that time, he was 21 years old.

    Wembley Hills recalled he with crew and passengers were got from sea, or forced to leave boat, concentrated in top deck of submarine. Japanese captain ordered these prisoners"Don't look back." Then Japanese use guns, bayonets, swords and other weapons kill the prisoners one by one, some people are thrown to the propeller stirring to death.

    Wembley Wales tried break the rope, jump into the sea when Japanese machine guns shooting, swam for several hours to find a lifeboat, later he rescued three people. He said Japanese tied the last of 22 British to submarine, submarine dive,so these people were dead.
    The Japanese Captain was regarded as a hero in Japan. He not only been brought to court after war, but a promotion.
    Japanese soldiers escape punishment
    Book record Japanese massacre 312 Australia and Netherlands POWS in JAVA airport 1942 February. Since no survivors from massacre, materials from the confessions of two Japanese witnesses.
    Four Japanese officers were hanged in Australia after war, other Japanese soldiers escaped punishment. What is more, Japanese Navy submarine I-37's captain for killing four British merchant and a British warship survivors. He was sentenced to 8 years imprisonment,only served 3 years he was released ,Japanese government said that's an "legal behavior in war ." Felton said: "The most outrageous is Japanese forgot their crime, And Japanese politicians distort history."
    (end) ​
     
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    It is a sad truth that the Pacific War was a brutal one on both sides. While there was much less chance that Allied forces would deliberately shoot/kill/execute helpless people, the unrestricted submarine warfare and saturation bombing of Japanese cities exacted a profoundly greivous toll of human life as well. We can not, should not, must not forget the brutality of the Pacific war. We must also not dwell on it to the exclusion of finding peace between those who fought.

    An unhappy peace is better than the 'best' war by any measure.
     
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    I don't see how you can say, Germany and Japan were not punished. Both were heavily damaged by bombing, fire
    bombing and other acts of war. Both, were also occupied by allied troops. The Red Army was particularly brutal in their
    occupation of Germany. Enthic Germans who lived in Czechoslovakia, were forced to give up their homes and relocate to
    Germany, after the war ended. This was for supporting Hitler and his ideas. Germany was also cut into two parts, and
    stayed that way for about 45 yrs after WW2 ended. People living in East Germany paid a very heavy price for the war.



    The US helped rebuild a lot of Europe. France and Great Britain also rec'd a lot of resources from the Marshal Plan and
    other US aid after the war ended. Europe was a major part of the world economy and a trading partner for the US. The
    European economy would have had much more difficulty getting going again, with all that damaged infrastrucure, that happened during the war. If Europeans were going to buy American products, they needed jobs and a growing economy.

    Rebuilding of Japan was necessary to help their economy as well. This was necessary to prevent the War Lords in Japan from regaining power.

    After WW2, the US did all it could to prevent another world war. It worked, where as the efforts after WW1 did not.
    To a great extent, the Treaty of Versaille was about revenge. That's one big reason it failed and helped creat an even
    worse world war. That mistake was not repeated after WW2.


     
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    Definately a language problem but, to answer one of your questions or at least I think it was...Britain as a nation today harbours no ill will to the Japanese.

    The soldiers who fought them told their stories, many of are aware of the barbarism involved. The dropping of the bomb for some of us without making this thread resound on old bomb issues...was a godsend in some of our views.

    Old soldiers and indeed civilians who fought them, or were guests of the Nippon Empire as such have a right not to either forgive or forget and no one here will ever tell them that apart from one silly Prime Minister by the name of Tony Blair who put other things above his own peoples and nation but thats politicians.

    Today's Japanese citizen is not to blame for his predecessors sins. Nor is anyone for that matter...

    If I was alive in 1945 the Japanese would be barbarians to me. However I was not and they are not..but I understand those that think that way. When the last vetran of that war is gone then there will be no hatred hopefully. But yes there is still hatred in many still alive here and I for one will defend their right to hate till the day they die.
     
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    Who is braveset countries in world war 2. China KMT or Japan or American or German? Soviet union is rubbish countries,they are cowards ,they only dare attacked Japan empire amry after USA drop nuclear bombs to Japan homeland. The Soviet union cowards so-called they wined the Japan.The USA and Soviet Union get the most benificial from the war world 2. STalin very slip ,Soviet union get most benifits in against Japan war.
    but after Stalin dead, the China commnuist party take revenge to Soviet Union in 1969. That is tell us ,don't do too many bad things like Soviet union. If you are a bad guy,you must pay back sooner or later!
     
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    Why USA give China Kuomintang military assistance in world war 2,The American president Roosevelt said, If no China army keep millions Japan soldiers in China Kuomintang battlefield. The Japan empire can capture Australia and India and west Asia immediately. Churchill: If Japan into the Western Indian Ocean, inevitably lead to all of our army collapse in the Middle East . Only China can prevent the situation
     
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    Why the European soldiers always pray before the battle: "God save me,God bless me.' Are they very afraid? But there is no God in world,that is true.
    I see the HOllywood movie ,said American soldiers how brave to defined their country. But when American soldiers wounded,he will shouted;Oh,no,God save me,I am die. Ma Ma,where are you?? Are they afraid to dead?? ​
     
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    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Perhaps we should remember where in China he gets or fail to get his information. If Aliens judged us by our movies alone they would nuke us from space and called it a day.
     
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    There is really no answer to your question. There is no bravest nation. Italy had perhaps the worst military but was blessed with brave and dedicated people in its military. The German military served the worst of causes and yet had some of the best people as well. We try to seperate the men and women who fought from leaders who sent them into battle as much as possible. An evil person who does evil things deserve our contempt, but not all people are evil simply because they serve in a military that is lead by a evil man or has evil people within it.

    It should be remembered that the USSR attacked Japan at the US request. By that time the US had some reason to regret asking, but was in no position to prevent the act any longer.
     
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