Discussion in 'WWII Obituaries' started by Paul Errass, Jan 6, 2008.
Here is an authentic Westphalen signature for comparison.
Here is a RARE full signature from Westphalen from some years back.
Hi Ivan, I too have a Westphalen signature. And indeed it does look like the first one you posted a pic of. Thanks for sharing.
so guys what do you think ?
and yes C, K. Feldt from the S-booten is alive, I do not have his addy though, this is from another KM research source that has been following the deceased KM RK winners for the past 10 years
Looks OK to me.
C, my question is whether or not it is hand signed or the stamp-ed that Ivan spoke of ?
Hi E, Sorry, I must have mis-read your post. Usually if they are stamped, you can tell if you hold it at such an angle that makes the signature look level to you and sometiems you can see either a sharp impression of the ink-which means it's handsigned, or a slightly fuzzy impression-which means it was stamped.
I learned how to tell about signatures way back when I used to sell and trade autographs-which was about 20 years ago.
I see your point of they were using a baqll point pen but I have many after war sigs with use of a Flair type marker which is crap and not fully detailed, fully "flat" as you mentioned, no indentations at all. Sadly many KM pics are signed right over the dark blue tunic/coat with black or blue pen so you do not see the full sig as it literally melts right into the dark background.......sniff, wimper
I have a rare signed pic of KM H. Bögel in black ball point, clearly hand signed, very nice sweeping signature he had but right across his neck and part of his face........yikes.
Siegfried Wupperman. Horst Weber, Felix Z. and a couple of other RK S-booten winner pics I have are all signed with black pen and are very hard to read except for Kemmnades which is in Blue as well as S-boot ace Kurt Fimmens. At least the Töniges pic had a white area at the bottom for his black marker sig which is very clean and crisp. Kleinkampfverbandführer Helmut Bastian's pic signed with Black marker pen to the lower right but very crammed together which was his style but hardly discerned. G. Priens is very clear and clean in black ink.
I'll get you Klaus Feldt address and e mail you,
Hi Paul, thank you and, I wan't to make you and Erich a copy of my Feldt/Raeder HH PK foto in case you guys want to see if he will sign that one. I'll try to have copies made this coming Monday and will ty to get them out to you later the same week.
This foto is about double postcard size. Also, if I think about it, I would like to make a copy for you both, the last photo taken of Wolfgang Luth on the conning tower of U 181. This picture is much like my pic of Johann Mohr when he was on the conning tower of his Uboat. Both pics also display kill flags.
And thank you again Paul-Herr Feldt is one I greatly look forward to writing to.
Take care and best regards-Carl.
Hi E, about half of the signed pics I got of KM guys was like the ones you mentioned about being signed over their dark uniforms. I was also going to say that you could easily use a certain method in tellinig if the sig was stamped or written on with a felt marker but, it involves in slightly destrroying a small part of the signature-so I will not tell of that method. Also, I don't think it would have helped enough to make it worth destroying a small pat of the autograph. Sometimes you can tell the diff/ by using a drop of water and a Q-tip.
Do really want to know? I have a few copies and they are just as excellent. of course the original signature is another thing, but I'd rather have a copy than nothing. In my collection I have mainly airmen :
Oskar Boesh, Grislawski, Huy, Kaiser Herbert, Weik, Glunz etc...
Carl / Erich have got Feldt's address for you and have been told he will reply , will pm you both,
Hi Paul, got it and many thanks mate ;-)) Also, i'll make you a copy of the Feldt photo-which was my most expensive, and will mail you a copy of it soon. This picture in particular, is one of my top three most favorite that I have ;-)) Another is a Luftwaffe pic that if I can think about it, will make a copy of it for you. This one shows a bomber crew celebrating I think, 1,200 sorties? I don't think any KC guys were in this pic, but not sure on that either.
hey put me on that Feldt photo copy list C if you would, I made another copy for Feldt to sign and yes Paul thank you very much this could be interesting as I have a ton of questions for the man but will limit it to just 3-4.
Skipper Oskar B. is one of the neatest LW pilots I have ever interviewed and written.... a super man, aging well, strong and still flys Gliders on the circuit in Canada
No problem but, PLEASE REMIND ME if I don't get them out in next weeks mail. Or I (unfortunately) will forget.
PS, im not yelling above-just that I really mean it in reminding me-even if you have to nag nag nag a bit. I gotta go to Kinko's to do some other stuff too and will hopefully go there on Thurs or Fri next week.
will do in a private next week
Hello Paul, can you send me his adress too?
* 10.07.1916 Traustein
+ 16.03.2008 Herrsching
Ritterkreuz am: 19.09.1943
Funktion: Führer II./WerferRgt 70
Reat in Peace Herr Major.