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Manchester Terror Attack

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  1. The_Historian

    The_Historian Pillboxologist Patron   WW2|ORG Editor

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    Sorry to hear this...
     
  3. KodiakBeer

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    The new normal...

    Particularly despicable is that this singers audience is adolescent girls, so to bomb this venue is to target children.
     
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    I'm just going to guess what peace-loving group did this.
     
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    Horrible news. Perhaps to be expected in a country with increasing areas of exclusively Muslim enclaves.
     
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    Sad news indeed.
     
  7. The Alerted Beast

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    I can never figure out what they are trying to achieve...

    Original Arab Muslims had the motto "Victory is achieved by terrorizing" and they used it for their own agenda like plundering, acquiring more land, women, Muslim thugs... which is quite understandable.

    But these bastards will never understand that it ain't 7th century any more, and they owe everything they got from the WESTERN CIVILIZATION, because nothing good ever came from their foolish religious ideas...
     
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    You talk like they are mature and educated...it's easy to brainwash if you start early...but we must hold on dearly to our multicultural way of life musnt we? Must we? Why?
     
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    I'm not talking about those mere expendables, who firmly believe that they go straight to heaven because they have killed infidels. I'm talking about their masters: Sheikhs, Mullahs, Imams...
     
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    For them it's about power IMO...there's a system they can use to gain it and keep it. They live in a system that doesn't force or encourage empathy towards humans or animals...their religion is a ME and US, not to love all and improve the area they live in...like some other religions...above all, they do not truly preach tolerance, only give it lip service. As has been said before, there's is an old outdated religion being practiced by an old outdated people's...there needs to be reformation.
     
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    CAC, You are absolutely right, I have read many of your comments, you are a man deep thoughts who can express them in marvelous words.

    But you must consider that Islam is not practical and has no meaning in itself because of many fatal controversies in its holy book. Therefore its always Islam+Local Culture or Islam+People. There has been excellent reforms in past centuries but some countries and the extremists discard them.

    But the masters I mentioned are like Mafia front bosses, it is almost impossible to find the real bosses, their true motives... Believe me its more complicated that you can even imagine!
     
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    May the (now 22) victims rest in peace and speedy recovery for the injured. God help the rest if they need mental health counselling as our mental health service is on its knees as it is.

    Nothing can be done against these lone wolf attacks, but I'm sure this latest attack will help the justification of the newly proposed Govt. controlled internet service.

    Tony Blair seems to be most anxious to re-enter politics. We should send him to be our peace envoy. He stirred the shit pot and should be made to lick the spoon.
     
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    Horrible... I have children fans of Ariana ...
     
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    Thought to all involved.

    Not sure if this guy was known to security forces but maybe now is the time to just take such people off the streets. Will not stop all such incidents but should provide more resources if we are not sitting on our backsides watching those we think may do something.
     
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    I find this (rather common) attitude impossible to understand. Do you really think that this murderous ideology is somehow a response to our (or Blair's) actions? To think so is to totally misunderstand what this is. It is not a response. It has nothing at all to with our actions. They will butcher us and our children despite anything we do because that is their purpose. It is a death cult, nothing more, nothing less, and whether we send them chocolate bunnies or MOABs they will still kill westerners because our way of life, our social progress, our love, is the very thing they must destroy according to their belief system.
     
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    Statistically these murderers are killing more of their own muslim brothers and sisters than us here in the west. The chances are its some British born that has looked around and saw no hope and jumped on this bandwagon of hate for their own twisted purpose and will in truth have had very little to do with the real Muslim faith or even followed it to the book.

    If the British government (and I'm not just talking about our current one) keeps shiting on our youngsters from a great height, then sadly we can expect more and more of them to turn to this twisted way of thinking. We're churning out generations that are completely disillusioned by life. Kids being turned away by mental health services because they are not deemed sick enough and those that do get help have had to wait up to a year to see a professional. The UK has managed to fall from 11th place globally in terms of childrens rights to 126 in just one year. UK plummets from 11th to 156th in global children's rights rankings We've got parents begging for professional help for their children and being turned away. But their vote doesn't matter, it's only the senior citizens vote they are interested in.

    My veteran father would be turning in his grave at the state of mental health care in this country. He loved being a psychiatric charge nurse and cared for many fellow veterans during his years. He just wouldn't be able to comprehend the 'care in the community' that was introduced over here, instead of investing and rebuilding replacements for our old mental health institutions.

    If our governements don't start recognising this problem and fast, it can only get worse unfortunately. I don't like this any more than you do, but I'll be damned I'll tar them all with the same brush. It's precisely this type of generalisation that get these kids backs up in the first place and we're all going to pay dearly for it.
     
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    Being born into a single parent home is one of if not the largest factor in producing broken children. Until that is resolved it's treating the symptom not the problem.
     
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    Ummm, no. You're not going to change 1000 years of ingrained hate and willful ignorance by shifting a bit of your social services money in that direction, and a bit of your this or that money in another. The very fact that you have money to lavish on these people for housing, food, spending money, is just more fuel to feed the hatred; a demonstration of their cultural inferiority. They don't want jobs, and the suggestion they should work is a massive insult to them. You are a subhuman, an unbeliever, and it is your duty to be their slave, to provide for their every economic need, to give them your female children to satisfy other needs. Yet the more you give, the greater their inferiority becomes apparent.

    And so, they want to kill you, because their take on religion says they can, and should. Until every westerner fully understands this cancer and realizes that Jihadis should be locked in cages rather than put on the dole this will continue. This fellow has already been identified, and was under the eye of security forces who did not lock him up. When more details become apparent it will no doubt be revealed that he has been a public ward for his entire life, never held a job, lived in public housing and collected a check every month. More money won't help. If they are British citizens, lock them in a cage. If a recent migrant drop them in the middle of Kurdish controlled Syria.
     
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