And two chins. Hello Volkbert, I think thats a nice cased Ek1. Got it from Weitze eh?--good deal. Greg is more knowledgable than I am i=on Eks--he has a copy of The Iron Time book--which I think costs about $100.00. Its an indepth book on anything and everything to do with Iron Crosses. Greg the only thing Im holding out on you is a nice 1914 ek2 I just picked up about a week ago. I almost bought some marked 19139 ek2s from Peter, but his site is swamped as badly as Detlevs is. Friedrich--Der tunic ist mein. as well as the peaked visored cap.