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Model 1933 SS dagger orriginal???

Discussion in '☆☆ New Recruits ☆☆' started by pizzamakergino, Jul 2, 2018.

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is this dagger orriginal? ,how much is it worth??

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  1. pizzamakergino

    pizzamakergino New Member

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    It's a nice piece but is it orriginal?
    Please help me
    THANKS!
     

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    JJWilson Well-Known Member

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    Hello pizza, and welcome to the forums. I am not an expert in this kind of thing at all, but that is a very nice looking nice dagger you have there! "Loyalty is my honor" is what google Translate said it to be. How did you aquire this piece?
     
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    pizzamakergino New Member

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    i bought this yesterday from a doctor for 650 euro's. He founds it many years ago in Germany.
     
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    JJWilson Well-Known Member

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    Do you remember what he said of it? Like it's originality, or previous owner, or maybe clues and indications it is a legitimate dagger?
     
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    PzJgr Drill Instructor Patron  

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    So far I have not seen any like this one. The originals I have found in research have the reverse engraving not centered on the blade. This provided room for the owner to engrave their name which was the norm. I'm no expert but this is what I have found

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    Neither am I an expert but to my reasonable eye it appears to be authentic. It looks to have been cleaned but the residual markings look good to me. the most interesting area is the scabbard. I had it's cousin as a teen, in the 50's and rust was beginning to develop under the paint...mine was painted a chocolate brown and I do not recall the SS runes being on it. The pint was fine in some areas but near the edges, it was beginning to show mild rust lifting the pint exactly as with this one..
    Anyone in the collecting business knows lots of forging goes on, poor to near perfect but I think this one is real. I have not a clue as to value but others here obviously do.
     
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    The early SS daggers have just a makers mark on them which yours has. The crossguard and eagle were made out of nickel and don't wear away like the later nickel plated daggers. Your dagger has runner marks which you expect on the blade. The crossguard should have a roman numeral stamped on it, yours has it. The scabbard looks to be anodized and not painted which is a good sign. Looks legit to me. I would get the inscription translated and researched that's on the back of the blade. I never saw one like that before. The leather strap may have been replaced because it looks too new.
     

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