Welcome to the WWII Forums! Log in or Sign up to interact with the community.

Most useless weapon of the 20th Century

Discussion in 'The Guns Galore Section' started by Ebar, Jun 18, 2004.

  1. tankpark.freeserve.co.uk

    tankpark.freeserve.co.uk New Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2004
    Messages:
    149
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    united kingdom
    via TanksinWW2
    serious weapons.

    Come on lads, I'm always serious!Anyone who has had experience of an officer with a map knows how dangerious that can be.How long ago was it that the Royal Marines invaded Spain and the officer in charge thought they were invading Giberalter!?
    Do you realise that I am actually old enough to remember the German rifle that could shoot round corners!It did work but the barrels didn't last long!Giberalter??Try Gibraltar!!!(incidentally, anyone watching "Das Boot"
    who has read the book should listen to the words compared with the subtitles when they speak of how narrow the Straits are)
    Let us not forget, life is not all about muzzel velocities and statistics!!
    (Unless you are in a turret)
     
  2. me262 phpbb3

    me262 phpbb3 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2004
    Messages:
    3,627
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Porter,TX
    via TanksinWW2
    ??????
    why do you need enemies if you have your own mates against you? :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  3. me262 phpbb3

    me262 phpbb3 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2004
    Messages:
    3,627
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Porter,TX
    via TanksinWW2
    how about the baloon bomb made by the japs by the thousands and only a few reached the states?
     
  4. Ebar

    Ebar New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    2,006
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    On a space station in geosynchronous orbit above y
    via TanksinWW2
    I think the relative failure of the Baloon bomb was more a question of execution rather than concept. Besides lets face it any idiot can design a weapon that merely doesn't work to make up that is truely more dangerous to its own side, well that takes something special.
     
  5. Ricky

    Ricky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2004
    Messages:
    11,974
    Likes Received:
    105
    Location:
    Luton, UK
    via TanksinWW2
    I knew the Sten would cause controversy...
    I did not say useless, just dangerous!

    On to safer ground.

    The Balloon bomb actually could well have worked - their main aim was to create forest fires. Most of the balloons did fall in forests. However, they were sent off in 'damp' seasons (ie: not summer). Have you ever tried to set fire to a damp tree? Very tricky.

    If the balloon bomb campaign had been kept going over summer, it may well have been a success.
     
  6. Kellhound

    Kellhound New Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2004
    Messages:
    401
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Spain
    via TanksinWW2
    I agree with the officer with a map being the most dangerous for your own side.
    As for bad weapons, how about the Chauchat machinegun?
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    :lol:
     
  7. Roel

    Roel New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2003
    Messages:
    12,678
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Netherlands
    via TanksinWW2
    What's so bad about this weapon? Looks like an odd design for an MG, but nothing particularly useless...

    Tankpark, you may well be right about the most dangerous thing in warfare, but a map is far from useless I'd say. Dangerous, but not useless. It can be good... :D
     
  8. Ricky

    Ricky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2004
    Messages:
    11,974
    Likes Received:
    105
    Location:
    Luton, UK
    via TanksinWW2
    That MG was hopeless.
    If I remember rightly it was designed in (and for) WW1.

    It kept stopping.
     
  9. tankpark.freeserve.co.uk

    tankpark.freeserve.co.uk New Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2004
    Messages:
    149
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    united kingdom
    via TanksinWW2
    dangerous

    I did not say that a map was dangerous,only the officer attached to it!
    The MOST useful thing that the British Army had (I don't know about the others cos I wasn't in them)was a sense of humour! (closely followed by the ability to make tea((I won't say brew up cos it confuses people)) under most difficult conditions).For any who do not realise it, many of my comments are tongue in cheek so please don't take them too seriously!
     
  10. tankpark.freeserve.co.uk

    tankpark.freeserve.co.uk New Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2004
    Messages:
    149
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    united kingdom
    via TanksinWW2
    useless? dangerous??

    Once again Roel you are absolutely correct!Of course a map is not useless, neither was a propaganda leaflet when you needed one! mind you, the shiny ones were not popular.!!
    Incidentally, have you had a discussion on propaganda leaflets?
     
  11. Roel

    Roel New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2003
    Messages:
    12,678
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Netherlands
    via TanksinWW2
    I don't remember any, now that you mention it... Good one, thanks for suggesting it.

    Morale is the most important thing on any battlefield. If good morale comes from a sense of humour and a cup of tea, then what else do you need? Go Brits! :D
     
  12. GP

    GP New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    1,432
    Likes Received:
    0
    via TanksinWW2
    The septics to laugh about.
     
  13. tankpark.freeserve.co.uk

    tankpark.freeserve.co.uk New Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2004
    Messages:
    149
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    united kingdom
    via TanksinWW2
    septic/

    Ah, that's what's meant by a "septic tank"
     
  14. corpcasselbury

    corpcasselbury New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2003
    Messages:
    4,356
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    High Point, North Carolina, USA
    via TanksinWW2
    My entry in this category are the Japanese seaplane carrying submarines. These behemoths were intended to carry a disassembled seaplane in a watertight hangar on the casing to the West Coast of the United States, surface, assemble the seaplane, then send it off to bomb its target. Aside from the near impossibility of avoiding the American coastal patrols long enought to put the plane together, even if they had managed it, the seaplane didn't carry anything resembling an effective bombload, making for a wasted trip, even assuming that it wasn't immediately shot down by the large number of fighters stationed at the coastal bases. This entire sub class (yes, they built more than one) was a total waste ot time, money, resources, and manpower.
     
  15. FRIEND phpbb3

    FRIEND phpbb3 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2004
    Messages:
    51
    Likes Received:
    0
    via TanksinWW2
    useless weapons

    concerning the Chauchat lmg- It was workable? in 8mm Lebel(Ithink) round but was hideous when in WW1 it was converted into 30/06 for Us forces.It either jammed or tried to tear itself to shreds as the new round was about twice the pressure and stress.also concerning the Japanese balloons they did work and diverted large amounts of American time & energy and they only carried explosive and incindeary loads. consider if they had carried Unit 731 tried and developed biological weapons - goodbye West coast of the US and Canada
     
  16. Roel

    Roel New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2003
    Messages:
    12,678
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Netherlands
    via TanksinWW2
    Whoa Corp, I think we have a winner. These subs-with-planes were absolutely useless!
     
  17. Ricky

    Ricky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2004
    Messages:
    11,974
    Likes Received:
    105
    Location:
    Luton, UK
    via TanksinWW2
    Not at all - a spotter plane is very useful for any marine craft without radar. Witness the German 'helicopter' on later U-Boats...
     
  18. SgtBob

    SgtBob New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2003
    Messages:
    545
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    USA
    via TanksinWW2
    The U.S. (for reasons I don't know) called it the Shosho. The magazine was open on one side, an open invitation to dirt and the main reason why it jammed repeatedly. The production quality was so poor that none of the parts were interchangeable from weapon to weapon, including spare parts. It's easy to see why the French willingly gave it away to U.S. troops.
     
  19. Christian Ankerstjerne

    Christian Ankerstjerne Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2004
    Messages:
    2,801
    Likes Received:
    10
    Location:
    Denmark
    via TanksinWW2
    :-?


    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Christian
     
  20. Kellhound

    Kellhound New Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2004
    Messages:
    401
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Spain
    via TanksinWW2
    Shosho was after the french pronunciation of chauchat. In spanish that meaning had other connotations :lol:

    After all it was suffered.. er, used, by the republicans in the spanish civil war. When nationals captured them, they went directly to the nearest junkyard.
     

Share This Page