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Discussion in 'Western Europe 1943 - 1945' started by roscoe, Jan 15, 2023.

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  1. roscoe

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    I take you've read Winterbottom's book then. Did you read Kenneth Macksey's book.
     
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    USMCPrice Idiot at Large

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    Methinks (see I'm using something you wrote) a more appropriate Avatar for you would show the south end of a north bound bull evacuating its bowels. That seems to be a specialist subject of yours. Methinks.
     
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    Aren't you afraid that your exposure of this mysterious translation is going to leave you open to being disappeared by the men in black?
     
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    Oh the poor students and all the humanity!

    No, the poor signals security of the Luftwaffe and the relatively simpler Luftwaffe Enigma settings were a godsend for Bletchley Park when it came to decrypting Luftwaffe signals. It did nothing for them with regards to Luftwaffe and Heer intercepts.

    No, the phrase "little real evidence" means there is little real evidence of the things you prate on about.You have also not provided any evidence there is either smoke or fire and you continually avoid responding to simple, direct questions, which is one of the hallmarks of an internet conspiracy nutjob.

    No, Bletchley Park did not burn 90% of their signal intercepts after the Axis surrenders, they destroyed the decrypt files, which is not the same thing.

    Anyone who continually trots out nutjob conspiracy narratives without a shred of evidence - or evidence they have any real knowledge of the subject - has little or no interest to me except as an object of ridicule.
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Published by DC or Marvel?
     
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    Oh dear, nothing like exposing yourself as the fraud you are. No, neither Winterbotham's nor Macksey's lbooks had anything to do with the content of my response. That you would think so demonstrates how very little actual knowledge you have of the subject.
     
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    Let me give you some too.

    Most of my adult career was spent working in defense analysis. From 1987 to 2008 I worked in studies focused on teasing out data from original wartime documents, using the archives of the United States, Great Britain, Germany, and Russia. In the process I became quite familiar with what does and what does not exist in archival sources and why, and what is and what is not accessible for security reasons in those archives.

    I also became quite familiar with what we called the "Comfy Chair Syndrome", which is when authors of military history sit in their chair and their sources become whichever book they can reach without getting out of that chair. You have alluded to something similar but your solution is apparently to watch videos that then lead you to make unsubstantiated claims that do not even exhibit the modicum of understanding of a subject achieved by the Comfy Chair authors.

    From 2008 to 2016, I worked as a military intelligence analyst for the U.S. government. In the process I became quite familiar with why, what, and how information becomes classified and why your daughter supposedly ran afoul of the Official Secrets Act.

    I am now semi-retired and working on writing various books on subjects that interest me in World War II, principally dealing with the Normandy Campaign.

    Oh, and sometimes you can know too little.
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Double secret probation?
     
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    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    You know the thread is going to be good when it starts by "Let me educate you".
     
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    Too late

    We've already read it. But it doesn't exist any more. :.) It has served as a confirmation to ourselves that the history of WWII is mostly a croc of Doo Doo.- i.e. the stuff you tell me that you have wasted your life studying.

    Somebody didn't want us to know this. How much is there out there that T.H.E.Y. don't want us to know?

    Did you read 'A Man Called Intrepid' ? A book no American should ever read.
     
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    Yes, I've read it.
     
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    Did you go into U.S. Treasury Department archives?

    Like someone once said - 'If you want to know what is really going on then follow the money.'

    Comfy Chair Syndrome? You must be a fan of David Irving then. I have a signed Hardback copy of his Hitler's War here. The book that got him imprisoned. How's that for Comfy Chair Syndrome?
     
  13. roscoe

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    So what is your take on Hitler declaring War on America?
     
  14. roscoe

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    Love the bit in Winterbottom's book re- General Gort VC decision to evacuate the BEF to Dunkirk.
     
  15. roscoe

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    By the way my father was a DR (dispatch rider) during Operation Market Garden. He spent many journeys to Boy Browning's HQ handing 'things' over personally to him delivering by hand something he wouldn't tell me what he was delivering.
     
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    You've read it, but it no longer exists, but you are the keepers of the secrets. Sheesh, Scientology's scriptures have better provenance that that.

    Who? The Boogeyman?

    Why should I? Hugh Trevor-Roper rightly called it "from start to finish, utterly worthless"? Or M.R.D. Foot, who called it "historically worthless". Stephenson was the British, sorry, Canadian version of Ralph Ingersoll.

    If you like I'd be happy to provide you with a reading list of actual intelligence histories as opposed to the fictions you appear to rely on.
     
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    No, not my area of interest. Have you?

    Sigh, you know that was just a line in a movie that was a fictionalized recounting of a real event?

    Why would I be a fan of an anti-Semite? No, Hitler's War did not get him imprisoned. I see you are as ignorant of those facts as you are of most others.
     
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    FFS you couldn't even absorb the correction I gently gave you. It is Winterbotham, Frederick William Winterbotham CBE. Who wrote a single book on his wartime experiences with ULTRA solely from his memory. It is riddled with errors and inaccuracies.
     
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    He was probably delivering extra hankies to Mr. du Maurier.

    Do you always evade direct questions? So what are the names of the three SAS men killed in the Ardennes commemorated at Hereford?
     
  20. roscoe

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    Why don't you ask them. It's clear whatever I say you wont believe me.

    Well my Dad was mentioned in dispatches three times. Rather than hankies to Browning perhaps he was delivering toilet paper to Gavin. Worrying about non existent threat by a German supply unit through the Reishwald Forest.

    Take the bridge? What bridge?
     
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