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Patton's Decorations, Citations, and Medals

Discussion in 'WWII Today' started by Kai-Petri, Apr 18, 2003.

  1. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Well I would say the herr General George "Goring" Patton should be considered as America's most decorated soldier instead of Audie Murhpy. ;)
     
  3. Stefan

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    I think his full name was George S 'Christmas tree' Patton ;)
     
  4. wilconqr

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    Actually, he was originally known as George W. (no pun intended)He changed his middle name-William to Smith as a sign of disdain for an uncle going outside the bloodline to marry a Mexican, or something of that nature.
     
  5. Texas Fred

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    General G. S. Patton, Jr. would argue that he would "rather have the Medal of Honor than be a General" as he was heard to say the times he awarded it to others.

    Therefore, he would leave Lt. Audie L. Murphy's accolades as they are, out of respect and honor for the "quality" of Murphy's decorations over the quantity of his own...

    And PzJager, he would resent being called "Goring" by you, to the point of physicality...Actually, his Boston Bred Houty touty wife might attack and whip you for that disrespect.... [​IMG]

    An example....

    Once when Georgie ( the first time he was a Bird Colonel ) was newly back from his WW1 Tank Corps duties, before he was reduced in rank between wars, he had let Beatrice off at the door of some gathering and gone to park the car.

    As he entered the foyer of the building to rejoin Beatrice Patton, an old fat Army Colonel, who had seen no WW1 action, not knowing he was standing by the man's wife, remarked, "Well, look at the BOYS they are making Colonel these days..." Beatrice knocked the old fat Colonel down and was sitting astride him, cursing and beating him in the face when her husband, laughing, pulled her off the man.
     
  6. C.Evans

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    Actually Patton is Americas most decorated soldier, but Murphy has the distinction of being the most decorated soldier of ww2--Patton goes through the US/Mexican Border Disputes to ww1 and ww2. [​IMG]
     
  7. Friedrich

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    I do not agree with this statemen. Patton's decorations had a lot of quality. Maybe he didn't take as many risks as Audie Murphy nor killed as many Germans. He did when he had to. But as a general in WWII I think he indirectly killed more Germans, saved more Americans and contributed to the war effort more than 20 Audie Murphys... :rolleyes:
     
  8. Kai-Petri

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    http://www.pattonhq.com/medals/kutz.gif

    I was happy to see this one, the Order of Kutuzov, 1st class.

    "Established 29 July 1942. Awarded to group and army commanders and their staffs for exceptional service in directing combat operations."

    Cheers,
     
  10. Onthefield

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    hey kai, those are awesome sights. thanks for the post. patton definetly had the upper hand in the life saving aspect of WWII I think do to all the battles he recovered and all the strategic battles he won.
     
  11. Kai-Petri

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    You´re welcome, Onthefield!

    Too bad though Patton never got to the position he so much wanted: To fight Rommel and beat him!
     
  12. Texas Fred

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    It would seem Gen. Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller might slide in there somewhere with 5 Navy Crosses, one Army Cross along with several of the other lessor medals.
     
  13. Texas Fred

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    For some reason I ended up with two answers to Friedrich ( Incidentally, Freidrich , my name is Frederich :eek: ) so I deleted out this one by editing

    [ 10. March 2004, 11:56 AM: Message edited by: Texas Fred ]
     
  14. Texas Fred

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    I do not agree with this statemen. Patton's decorations had a lot of quality. Maybe he didn't take as many risks as Audie Murphy nor killed as many Germans. He did when he had to. But as a general in WWII I think he indirectly killed more Germans, saved more Americans and contributed to the war effort more than 20 Audie Murphys... :rolleyes: </font>[/QUOTE]Friedrich, today's youth might say, "Well, Duuuuuh.." I need a big MEGA rolleyes here for you, sir.

    An oldster would say you were "preaching to the choir."

    My point was that Patton himself respected combat valor medals. Next time you look at a picture of his .45 Colt, notice the two notches, carved by him, in the left ivory handle grip. HE was once a Lt. as well, and intended to keep score... :D

    Georgie affected the war even where he was not utilized as more than a threat. The nazis thought Ike was nuts to pull him off the line.

    Patton, as he said himself, welcomed more than his share of nazis "to the nether regions." Your estimate of 20/1 as compared to Murphy, in fact, is WAAAAAAY low...

    If Patton had been listened to, or the command structure turned upside down the war might have been over sooner by a significant amount. If he had been allowed to close that 11 mile gap in the British side at Falaise, as my Uncle said, Unc would not have come home as the first troops into the gap would have gotten severly trampled at first, but Unc said "The old man would have stopped the fleeing nazis and annihilated them in place." There wouldn't have been very many quality formations of Germans left to fight in the Battles of the Heurtgen Forest and the Bulge.

    If he had not been stopped by legitimate supply problems and sometimes illegitimate supply problems caused by Ike and his Allies, there also might have been life and time savings.

    I guess we can all agree a great General can kill more enemy than a great Lt.
     
  15. Texas Fred

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    Notice that Patton's body orderly, Sergeant George Meeks, an old Black cavalryman in his younger days, is one of the six pallbearers.

    Mrs. Patton asked Sgt. Meeks to accept this honor. Georgie called Sgt Meeks "the only man who knows where everything is..." Any time Patton was transferred, rather quickly, a request for Sgt Meeks' transfer came to Army personnel...
     
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    BTW,

    I must admit I did not know Patton spoke fluent French! "He was training in the 1910´s at the French Cavalry school and spoke French with an almost faultless accent (!)."

    Oops....
     

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