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  1. A-58

    A-58 Cool Dude

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    Well, is it the real McCoy or a bit of photoshopping?

    Takao, give it about 4 hours or 4 posts this time please.

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    I’ve read where some were modified with twin nose guns but not that far apart, from what I have seen. Looks a bit fishy? 7D580CA9-C5FB-4E4C-915E-05FE9D3DC990.jpeg CCC3BEE6-65C4-4E11-8851-EE898BC6D137.jpeg
     
  3. Biak

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    When the pilot says, "I need more guns", and there's a wrecked Lancaster near by ........
     
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    Could be from a Lancaster, but only. Not from a B24?
     
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  5. Biak

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    It's a B17 :D
     
  6. CAC

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    It is a B17...with maybe a frontal powered turret...Maybe a Lanc turret...
     
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    Yep, I know, I forgot to add the word “from”, that’s why my photos of the B-17’s.
     
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    Different view. upload_2021-1-4_17-11-37.png
     
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    Also looks like the upper mid section is open...not unlike the Italian bomber...
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    With even armoured frontal guns I bet facing armoured 20 mm frontal machine guns is no body's fun. I mean FW190 armoured planes.
     
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    Tell me how many survived once the B-17 went into a dive after fatal hits? 2-3? The g forces simply alone would not let you jump away. It is awful to read how Schräge Musik in nachtjagd top scorers dropped 5 planes in ten minutes.
     
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    Plus no waist gun positions...
     
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    It was called "Project Reed", and nicknamed "Project Dreamboat".

    While the project's findings did enhance the performance of the B-17, the interruption to production was deemed not worth the cost. However, some of the projects findings were implemented in the B-29 & B-32
     
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    Not necessarily a common modification, but it was done to several B-17s. They would fly wing on the lead plane to provide additional frontal firepower. Also, note the lack of a bomb sight - they would toggle their bombs when the lead plane dropped his. This modification was done away with when the chin turrets began arriving in quantity.
     
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    Takao wins again!
    I don't see how eliminating the waist gunners would be seen as a benefit. If the new nose turret was firing to the left, the right side would be vulnerable. And that open top gunner's position seemed like not a great idea. Maybe another turret or something like that would be better.
     
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    It shifted the aircraft's center of gravity to a more advantageous position.

    It allowed for a much wider cone of fire than the previous pintle or ball-and-socket mounts.

    There is no free lunch. A power mount with 2 MGs and ammo would add a good bit of wieght. Not to mention shifting the center of gravity further aft. Also, if there is trouble, it is easy to dump the gun...You can't get rid of a power turret.
     
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    Its a Consolidate A6 turret that was used as the B-24 tail turret. Also on the nose of some B-24's, many carried the Emerson A-15 on the nose.
     
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    Yes from reading the article posted about it it made total sense, and also what you mentioned about the added weight of the extra turret. But what I was getting at was the lack of waist gunners providing cover from the flanks so to speak.
     

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