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    danowens739 New Member

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    Hello. I'm posting in this forum in hopes that someone can help me identify one of the ribbons that my father wore on his uniform. He was a member of Company A of the 563rd. I've looked at so many ribbon charts that my eyes are going crossed, and can't find any information on this ribbon. I'm in the process of creating a shadow box of his WW2 memorabilia, and would also be interested if anyone has found a source for an embroidered unit insignia patch. Here is the ribbon in question. Thanks for any help. IMG_20190922_144824554_HDR (2).jpg
     
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    It looks like a faded/discolored American Campaign Medal that is also upside down.
    Requirements:
    1. On permanent assignment outside the continental limits of the United States.
    2. Permanently assigned as a member of a crew of a vessel sailing ocean waters for a period of 30 consecutive days or 60 nonconsecutive days.
    3. Outside the continental limits of the United States in a passenger status or on temporary duty for 30 consecutive days or 60 nonconsecutive days.
    4. In active combat against the enemy and was awarded a combat decoration or furnished a certificate by the commanding general of a corps, higher unit, or independent force that the Soldier actually participated in combat.
    5. Within the continental limits of the United States for an aggregate period of 1 year.
    If he was stateside for at least a year training and awaiting transport, he would earn it, which is how a large number of men earned it.

    Considering the 563rd earned 5 Campaign Stars, he most likely would have earned the medal under section 4 above.

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    Also, I strongly doubt they wore a patch specific to their unit, the 563SAWB. Most likely, if they wore a patch, it would have been of a Corps or Army or its equivalent, which was most likely that of XIX Tactical Air Command and was part of the 9th Air Force.

    I don't know if the XIX Tac Air had a patch, but the 9th AF did.
     
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    I have the 9th AF patch, but I wasn't sure if there was an actual patch of the unit emblem. media-6425.gif
     
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    I also found a couple of documents in my fathers files.

    563rd Signal Air Warning Battalion Battle Honors Citation.jpg Unit Commendation_Page_1.jpg Unit Commendation_Page_2.jpg
     
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    The number of color bars match, but in comparison to the other ribbons on his uniform, I'm somewhat
    puzzled how only this one could have color changed/faded so drastically. His award entitlement record
    from the archives doesn't list the American Campaign Medal either. I appreciate your assistance.
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I don't know.. Could be a locally acquired ribbon with below quality materials? Could be from a different set of ribbons that had been exposed?

    Regardless, he would have been authorized the ACM, judging by what you have presented here. If there is not another similar ribbon, then most likely it is it.

    There were not a lot of ribbons and the like back then, as it is now. Men didn't get ribbons for schools, training, and the like Most veterans who served honorably wore the same small set of ribbons. Barring exceptional and repeated valor, most only wore six or so ribbons at best. They may have been subsequently awarded others later (e.g. a Bronze Star to go with the CIB), but they only wore those few in that timeframe. There were only a few other ribbons commonly worn that were of a greater precedence, and I would readily recognize them and you would probably would have already found them.

    There are a few National Guard ribbons, awarded by state governments back then, mostly likely pre-war. If he served in the NG before the war, it is possible for there to be an odd ribbon awarded by a state. Finding it will be interesting.
     
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    He was enlisted. Enlisted men very often wore Distinctive Unit Insignia (DUI) on the upper lapels of the Service Dress. They were often heraldic in appearance. The sketch you provided looks similar to a DUI, but not all smaller units were authorized any. They were common for regiment-sized units and less common for battalion-sized units, especially unit types created and formed during the war, which I highly suspect the the 563d was.

    I cannot say definitively as the air forces are not my strength, but I suspect strongly his left shoulder patch was that of the 9th AF.
     

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