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  1. m kenny

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    Just wanted to quote this one in case someone tries to walk it back with edits.
     
  3. Takao

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    Why would anybody want to do that?

    Look at the looney toons going on in Arkansas. They passed a bill to display a 10 commandments monument on State Capitol ground(while the bill has been passed, there has been no agreement on where it should be placed. Now, not to be outdone, the Satanic Church wants to place a bronze statue of Baphomet on Arkansas State Capitol grounds...And that might just happen: Satanic Temple one step closer to placing statue on Arkansas Capitol grounds

    I'm just waiting for the next religious group to propose a monument there.
     
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    I've never mentioned him,

    Your search - site:www.ww2f.com wm Wilders - did not match any documents.

    But maybe we should ask the people on Westminster Bridge, what do they consider sensible or not...
     
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    Welcome to London: We can say we’re not afraid, light candles and make hearts of our hands but the truth is that we can’t go on like this
    No anger for me this time. No rage like I’ve felt before. No desperate urge to get out there and scream at the idiots who refused to see this coming.
    Not even a nod for the glib idiots who say this will not defeat us, that we will never be broken, that cowardice and terror will not get the better of Britain.
    Because, as loyal as I am, as patriotic as I am, as much as my whole younger life was about joining the British military and fighting for my country — I fear we are broken.
    Not because of this ghoulish spectacle outside our own Parliament. Not because of the lives rammed apart on the pavement, even as they thought about what was for tea. Or what train home they might make.

    But because this is us now.
    This is our country now.
    This is what we have become.
    To this, we have been reduced.
    Because all the while those forgiving fools in Brussels stood with their stupid hands raised in hearts to the sky, another mischief was in the making. More death was in the pipeline.

    [...]
    London is a city so desperate to be seen as tolerant, no news of the injured was released. No clue about who was safe or not.
    Liberals convince themselves multiculturalism works because we all die together, too.
    An entire city of monkeys: see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. Blind. Deaf. And dumb.

    Immersed in a seething pit of hatred, hidden in pockets of communities plagued by old animosities and ancient strife.
    These people may have left their lands. But they have brought every tension, every conflict, every bit of fight here with them.
    The Afghans hate the Somalias who loathe the Eritreans. As it was before, it is now. London is a city of ghettos behind a thin veneer of civility kept polished by a Muslim mayor whose greatest validation is his father's old job.
    Son-of-a-bus-driver Sadiq.

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    The patriots of the rest of England versus the liberals in this city. The endless tolerance to those who harm us, (while the Home Office tries to shift the focus of public fear to white terror) — versus the millions like me who face the truth, with worried families and hopeless hearts, who feel the country sinking.
    [...]
    This place is just like Sweden. Terrified of admitting the truth about the threat we face, about the horrors committed by the migrants we failed to deter — because to admit that we are sinking, and fast, would be to admit that everything the liberals believe is wrong.

    That multiculturalism has not worked. That it is one big fat failure and one big fat lie.

    [...]
    These people are no longer extremists. They are simply more devout. More true to their beliefs. Beliefs which will be supported endlessly across our state broadcaster for the next few months until we buy into the narrative that one religion is not to blame.


     
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    Sounds like Katie Holmes is throwing herself one great big pity party...
     
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    The article is by one Katie Hopkins. Generally described in the UK as 'Rent-a gob'. An attention seeking media whore who is a vile despicable person and derided as an idiot. She is employed by the far-right looney Daily Mail to reinforce its anti-immigrant, anti-EU agenda. She was recently defeated in a Libel Case and facing ruin over the (expected) £300,000 damages.

    Jack Monroe wins Twitter libel case against Katie Hopkins


    A figure of fun in the UK but (it seems) revered by the the lunatic Polish right.

    This is the general opinion of her-she is the one in pink:



    and another view of her:
     
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    Just to add that there has been no outbreak of blanket anti-Muslim outrage over this latest attack. Reaction is muted and reflective. Seems the people in the UK are not as rabid as some (Poles?) think.
     
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    And where could they express their opinions?
    Nobody is asking them, there are no public opinion polls.
    They can't discuss articles on news sites, like the Americans can, this option is gone or disabled.
    Everything they do on Internet is recorded and made available to numerous government agencies so people are afraid to say anything, in a country where freedom of speech doesn't exists.
    Where people's lives can be ruin by frivolous lawsuits, for the "crime" of making a mistake, like it happened to Katie Hopkins.

    They can only post anonymously outside their country, if they want to say something controversial:
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    We are united in our contempt for Katie Hopkins.
     
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    Comical to see the desperate racist loonies playing what they think is their ace and it getting absolutely no traction in the UK. The Mayor of London being a Muslim is simply not an issue here. It is true that the loud-mouthed idiot and ex-reality TV contestant known as Katie Hopkins tries very hard to make it a problem but aside from the crazies here no one takes her seriously. Like Farage this clown of a woman seems to be the go-to UK expert when Fox TV needs a nutcase to repeat its 'Birmingham is totally Muslim' fiasco. These ignorant loud-mouthed liars may be a staple of the alt-right TV Circus in the US but believe me they are nothing more than salivating dogs desperately performing tricks for their US paymasters. 'Race Traitors' if you will, turncoats who will denigrate their own people in the pursuit of the almighty dollar. A simple Google search on the reaction to Hopkins claim London is in lock-down and living in fear would illustrate the depth of the contempt the public (in the UK) have for this sad deluded woman.
    She lost her Libel case because she refused to admit she made a mistake and refused to apologise and pay the requested £5000 token penalty. She also stopped making her initial libel but then started attacking her victim on other fronts. It backfired in spectacular fashion and it cost the Harpy over £250,000. It is truly satisfying that an ignorant ill-informed peddler of hate and bile is now exposed as a court-proven liar.
     
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    Or rather the £5000 "or else" extortion request.
    Controversial columnists, like Katie Hopkins, who use brutal language against public figures exist in every functional democracy: in Poland, Israel, the US for example. They are able to say a lot because their freedom of expression is constitutionally protected.
    In the US for example:
    a condition required to establish libel against public officials or public figures and is defined as "knowledge that the information was false" or that it was published "with reckless disregard of whether it was false or not." Reckless disregard does not encompass mere neglect in following professional standards of fact checking. The publisher must entertain actual doubt as to the statement's truth.

    People make mistakes all the time, they are inevitable.
    In Britain people who make mistakes are in danger of destructive lawsuits, and frequently it's a matter of opinion what a mistake is. This is why it is said Britain is a country where freedom of expression doesn't exists.
     
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    Tosh. Your Harpy was running her stupid mouth off because she knew it would play well with her ignorant followers (people such as yourself) and she thought she was above the law. The defamed person gave her the chance to apologise and make a token payment. As Harpy Hopkins had lied all she had to do was admit her error. She refused and increased her attacks on the victim. In court Harpy Hopkins was totally defeated and now has to find over £250,000 instead of £5000. It could not be more satisfying that this woman is facing ruin.

    It might also be of interest for you to note that the 1 MP Party you think is the most powerful in the UK (UKIP with 1 MP from 650) no longer has any MPs. Their one and only MP has left UKIP.

    Douglas Carswell quitting UKIP to become independent MP for Clacton - BBC News



    The back-stabbing, lying, cheating, punching and bed-hopping antics that are the staple of UKIP became too much for him so he left the madhouse. UKIP are in complete meltdown and are finished-just like Geert Wilders!
     
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    The mistake Harpy Hopkins made was to conflate two people.
    Person A did the deed. Hopkins ranted about the deed and mistakenly named person B as the culprit.
    It really was as simple as Harpy Hopkins just getting her facts wrong.
    When the mistake was pointed out to Harpy Hopkins she refused to admit the error and she refused to retract her claims and pay a token £5000.

    Harpy Hopkins is paying dearly for her arrogant refusal to admit she was wrong or admit any error.

     
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    I see you still have that blinkered one dimensional approach to life. UKIP were a creation of their time, they forced the confrontation of issues needing addressing and as a consequence the electorate looking for change decided the UK should leave the EU and go its own way. UKIP was a catalyst for that change but is now dispensable. The world has moved on..

    It remains amusing to see how you continue to refer to and pigeon hole anyone who does not agree with your simplistic views of life.
     
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    Much like your inability to see any criticism of looney fruitcake racists without making some effort to defend them. The sort of thing that got Harpy Hopkins into trouble!!
     
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    Thank you for providing an good example of the point I was making. Now why not get your head out of google and go live a bit so you you can comment of real life experience rather than "what I read somewhere". You are as boring and predictable as ever.

    PS no reply required I have already written down and place your response in a sealed envelope.
     
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    Yeah right I can never hope to prevail over such an intelligent clever man like you.
    Trouble is the data gives the lie to your belief your 'gang' are the clever ones. The number crunching showed conclusively that Brexit supporters are, on average, the less well educated members of society. Overall your supporters can be classed as old people who left school at 16. You should do well in that demographic given that you know the difference between 'there & their'.

    In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king

    Sorry pal but thems the facts!
     
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    Just opened the envelope and yes that covers it word for word, as I say predictable. You still bang on about the demographic of those you oppose, as for what my "gang" is you have no idea. I could be anything. For me you are just a clockwork toy to wind up and let go.
     
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