Soviet Experiemental Tanks

I haven't seen much about Soviet experiemental tanks on the forum, so I wanted to share a few I came across:



SU-14Br2 heavy SPG. It was armed with a 152mm Br2 howitzer, a massive powerful gun, as well as 4x7.62mm DT MG's. Weight: 50,000 lbs.



SU-101, also called the "Uralmash-I", SPG, armed with a D-10s 100mm gun mounted on a T/34 base. Another version armed with a 122mm D25-44 gun. Weight: 34,000 lbs. Both were graded good on initial tests but the war ended before any could see combat.



SU-100Y, SPG. Armed with a 130mm Br13. Weight: 64,000 lbs


There are several more I would like to add, but I can not find any pictures for them so I'll wait until I find some.

 

TG "Tank Grote" 1x 76 mm, 1x 37mm, 5 MG 7,62 mm and 25 Tons.

 

There's photos of some at
http://www.tankmuseum.ru/
http://members.aol.com/kubinka/kubinmus.htm
and
http://www.voentour.com/tanks/kubinka_.shtml
I also have a Russian book called (IIRC Bronyeteknika), in Russian that gives photos and basic stats of Russian, German, Brit and US AFVs. There's a hell of a lot Russian stuff in the book that didn't get past prototype stage, eg the SU-100Y (a 130mm naval gun as a an SPG on a T-35 hull).
When (IF) I get my scanner replaced I'll scan and post some of the more interesting stuff.

 

Great topic.
A bit of a write-up on each tank would be nice - I'm looking foward to Oli's scans.

 

Now I think about it, try battlefield.ru
errmm. .. http://www.battlefield.ru/.
There's some good info in there on experimetals, IIRC a good article about KV-2 follow-ons, especially those with a 107mm gun!

 

Wow, wow, wow they have a Mörser Karl there

 

I hadn't noticed before but the vihicle behind makes me think they've finished tarting up the Maus. Must have a proper look to see if it's now completed its renovation.

 

Supposedly the SU-Br2 was used during the defence of Moscow but I can't find any hard proof for this.

Also: Also two heavy assult gun prototypes SU-14Br2 (on the chassis of T-35 tank) armed with 152 mm Br2 model 1935 gun and SU-100U (on the chassis of T-100 experimental prototype tank) armed with 130 mm Br3 gun were tested in Karelian Isthmus during Winter War. Both types were developed for bunker busting but were not accepted for serial production. They were used individually.

Heres a nice page on the SU-101 for anyone interested:

http://www.battlefield.ru/su101.html

 

Great pictures of the ultralarge tankmuseum Kubinka

http://keen.ru:8084/photos/kubinka2002/muzei/

http://keen.ru:8084/photos/kubinka2002/parad/

 

SU-76i

SU-76i Assault Gun


:bang:

 

SU-76i was produced in series it was not experimental wheicle. In total, Factory #37 manufactured 181 SU-76i plus 20 commander SU-76i.

http://www.battlefield.ru/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=63&Itemid=50

BTW the first photo is of wheicle in Poklonaya gora in Moscow. This wheicle is realy strange concerning the gun mount shape on the glacics. I was told on one russian forum that this is not realistic and that this wheicle was rebuilt from remains of a real SU-76i that was missing this part.
Real original SU-76i is on the monument in town Sarny Rovno region, Ukraine:
Photos of this wheicle:
http://www.thetankmaster.com/english/afv/su-76i.asp

 

Object 279

Soviet tank `Object 279`

 

Almost looks amphibious in that last shot there.

 

I actually found this forum by googling the Obiect 279 There's a topic on it somewhere...

It wasn't amphibious... It was designed to withstand a nuclear blast... Most tanks will be blown over by a nuclear explosion, but the hulll of the Obiect 279 has radiation protection and the hull is shaped so that the tank will stay safe and stable anywhere within the blast radius (except the fireball of course) in the event of a nuclear bomb going off... The four sets of tracks gave it a very low centre of gravity... THe hull also gave the tank excellent protection because of the sloped armor...

It performed well in tests... AFAIK the only reason it wasn't mass produced was because it was too expensive, and the Soviets didn't want to communicate to the west that they were preparing for nuclear war...

 

As far as I can see, a main problem would be that the bars holding the tracks seem quite thin.

 

then there was the T100 tank, it was the base for the IS2

 

This type of chassis (also seen on the SMK and the KV series) was actually quite common for Russian designs. I don't think you can say that this vehicle, specifically, was the forerunner of the JS-2 when the JS series was itself a streamlined KV-series tank.

 

Uh, I think the T-100 was actually the base for the KV-1, which in turn was the base for the JS-1 & 2

 

Well, then, uh, the T100 was the forerunner of the KV series, not the JS series.

 

the dimetions are close but when put side by side the KV series appears larger

KV1
Dimensions: 6.68 x 3.32 x 2.71 m

KV2
Dimensions: 6.80 x 3.32 x 3.28 m


IS1
Dimensions: 8.32 x 3.25 x 2.90 m

IS2
Dimensions: 9.9 x 3.09 x 2.73 m


http://www.military.cz/panzer/index_en1.htm