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THE AMAZING B 52 BOMBER

Discussion in 'Post War 1945-1955' started by gusord, Jun 2, 2012.

  1. harolds

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    I've read that at least one recent B52 pilot was piloting his Grandfather's plane. That is, the actual one!
     
  2. bronk7

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    ..sounds logical ......good for him
     
  3. Class of '42

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    Many thought the B-52 would be replaced by the B-70...no..then the B-1 Lancer...no...then the B-2 Spirit...no and now the B-21 Raider sometime down the road...no...see a pattern here...still be flying when I'm old and gray.
     
  4. bronk7

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    ...like I said, we've used them against enemies that had ''minimal'' effective air power or none at all [ post Vietnam of course ] .....so no need for stealth/etc in those conflicts
    ..which one are they getting rid of? ..or are they?
     
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    The Russian Bear was a copy of the B-29, reverse engineered from interned copies of planes forced to make emergency landings in Russia after attacks on Japan. We were sending them gigatons of material and they kept our planes. Shades of futures past.
     
  6. Carronade

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    That was the Tu-4, NATO reporting name Bull. The Tu-95 is an original design with swept wings and tail surfaces, turboprop engines, and contra-rotating propellers. A contemporary of the B-52 and also still in service, no doubt a "grandfather" to some of its crewmen.
     
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    The designs have little in common beyond both being swept-wing jet bombers.
     
  8. Takao

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    There were a few prototypes that were heavily modified Tu-4s, such as the Tu-75 & Tu-85(a direct competitor to the Tu-95). However, they were cancelled in favor of the Tu-95.
     
  9. Takao

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    And both had bicycle landing gear & outriggers. But, other than that, the Bison was an original design.
     
  10. Class of '42

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    The Russians and Chinese can't come up with an original aircraft design if it hit them in the head...simply copy Western designs and steal the technology seems to work better...most are overrated communist junk in my opinion.
     
  11. Takao

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    BlackJack
    Blinder/Backfire
    Tu-95

    All excellent aircraft...Provided you do not factor in Soviet quality control.

    The Backfire really caused some headaches in the West in it's time.

    The B-52 is fine for bombing 3rd world nations...But not my first or 10th choice to hit Leningrad or Moscow.
     
  12. Class of '42

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    The B-52J has completed modifications and is undergoing testing over the Pacific...aim high!

    B-52J in action over the Pacific.jpg
     
  13. green slime

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    Ahhh, the smell of bigotry in the morning...
     
  14. bronk7

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    ......they did the job and did it well in Linebacker 2 against Chinese and Russian systems/weapons/troops trained by the Russians
    ..once they changed over to common sense tactics
    ..Hanoi had massive Russian and Chinese designed AAA systems/weapons
    ...in the Arab-Israeli October War, the Israelis took a bloody nose from the Russian/etc SAMS....but once they changed tactics, they did well.....and in later conflicts

    1964!!!
    North Vietnamese Air Defenses

    Linebacker II - Air Force Magazine

    etc
    caps/etc for emphasis only
     
  15. Takao

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    Yawn...They faced old SA-2 Guideline SAMs, not the newest Soviet missiles. Despite fly against these older missiles, they still managed to lose 15-17 B-52s.
    Nor did the NVAF have many MIGs, again hardly constituting a threat to B-52s.

    So, we have 1st line B-52s flying against a 3rd rate country using 3rd rate Soviet hand me downs.

    Again all old Soviet Tech, not the latest & greatest.

    If, by "changed tactics", you mean "have advancing Israeli tanks & infantry units destroy SAM sites", then you would be correct.
     
  16. bronk7

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    ...the Israelis were outnumbered in all categories
    ...the Israelis were fighting on a narrow front---''surrounded'''
    and still they always beat the Russian weapons and systems ....tanks/AT/SAMs/etc
    even with great advantages, the Arabs with the Russian weapons/systems lost
    ..the B52s beat the Russian AA defense..
    ..so it's not just the weapon--it's tactics/etc
     
  17. Takao

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    When did the US sell B-52s to Israel?
     
  18. Class of '42

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    Thinking of putting this on the back window of my truck...

    LINEBACKER II 1972 truck decal.gif
     
  19. bronk7

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    hahhahahah
    ?
    B52s in Vietnam......
    ??
     
  20. Takao

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    Not according to you...
    Israelis...Israelis...Arabs...B-52s.
     

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