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The Black Eagle MBT

Discussion in 'Post-World War 2 Armour' started by Mutant Poodle, Oct 5, 2004.

  1. Mutant Poodle

    Mutant Poodle New Member

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    This could be a front runner for my new favourite tank. I like the design concepts and some of the improvements. I have no idea if this MBT has the Russian designed, and proven to work quite well, anti missle radar and system I have seen demonstrated on the learning channel.

    Here is the links that I have been able to establish as working:

    http://armor.kiev.ua/fofanov/Tanks/MBT/b_eagle.html

    http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/armor ... -eagle.htm

    http://www.armscontrol.ru/atmtc/Arms_sy ... el_MBT.htm

    http://p207.ezboard.com/fasementfrm27.s ... =434.topic
     
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    I have seen this before in a recent 'tanks of the world' book I bought.
    It looks good - the next step up in a long line of Russian armour. I assume it does not employ Chobnam, but has more 'normal' armour, with ERA on top.
    That turret looks to me like a flattened version of the Conqueror! :D
     
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    I agree, and the internal armoured crew compartment is an excellent idea.
     
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    From what I heard, the Black Eagle resembles --(gulp)---a western MBT, the west-like turret offers more internal space (crew comfort) than the traditional Russian inverted frying pan turret, crew safety was greatly enhanced by a separated ammo compartment, extra road-wheels offers more stability and cross-country abililites. However, those aside, I doubt the fire-control system or the integrated combat info system matches that of the western counterparts.
     
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    I would not care to guess that one, I don't think anyone has seen it in action or at a direct comparison in an evaluation trial; that would be really cool though.
     
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    That is possibly the best tank in the world, it might actually be better then the Abrams.

    I hope it isn't though because Russia has a tendency to export its weapons.
     
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    Totally badass. :smok: :smok: :smok: :smok: .

    Don't discount Russian ballistics systems ect. If the tank needs it to survive and be effective it is there.

    I would like to see it in action.
     
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    I think it would have a hard time against the new Leopard 2 A6, with the new Rheinmetall 120mm L/55 gun.

    KBO
     
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    KBO, do you have any reason for thinking that?
     
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    Oh yes i do, the new Leopard 2 A6 carries the newest equiment availeble, and is only matched by the Abrams in technoligy. It also has some of the best armor of any tank on the battlefield today, not to mension its new 120mm L/55 gun wich is the most powerfull on the field today, and able to knock out a T-80 frontally at 3500m.

    Btw the Abrams still uses the old Rheinmetall 120mm L/44 gun that was put on the first Leopard 2's.

    Regards, KBO
     
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    It's pretty amazing, the Rheinmetall has been producing well-designed artilleries for the Kaiser, for Hitler, and now for the Western allies. Its legacy probably rivals that of Mauser and Krupp
     
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    But KBO, you're suggesting that the Black Eagle would easily roll over all other opposition except the latest German tank? Do you know the specifications of these other tanks, such as the British Challenger mk. 2?
     
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    Err no im not.... :roll: i just said it wouldnt be a match for the Leopard 2 A6 because it derives from a country close to Russia, so it would probably be the first tank it would incounter if a war between the western allies and Russia should break out. i didnt even mension the other tanks. It wouldnt be a match for the abrams either.

    KBO

    Just edited it abit, my english failed my a little.
     
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    So now it wouldn't be a match for the Leopard? Have we seen either tank in action?
     
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    What i mean is that Germany lies closer to Russia than the Uk and U.S. so i felt it more appropiate to compare it with a German tank. I didnt pick the Leopard because i think its the best because its german ... but you seem to think so... The most lethal MBT in the world right now is the Abrams, so if i was to choose any tank i would choose that offcourse.

    Danyel Listen carefully im not Pro German if thats what you think, but i put credit where credit is due.

    KBO
     
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    I will take the British MBT, its superior night optics over the American MBT. However if the "Land Warrior Program" between the USA, Canada and the UK is successful in producing and fielding the 'Guass Cannon' would mean that there is no armour on the face of the planet that can currently withstand the velocity and mass of the projectile fired.

    Also with the new cannon fitted onto the LAV III it will be the most cost effective armoured vehicle in the NATO arsenal; meaning, to all the MBT fans, including myself, the LAV III will have the equivilent knock out power as an MBT at a fraction of the cost. However, with that leap in tech there should be a response to a new armour to better resist such a round very soon after.

    This MBT Gauss Cannon changes the entire battle field.
     
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    Hmm very interesting.... What is this Gauss Cannon exactly ??
     
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    Yeah, what exactly is the Gauss cannon?
     
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    Is it the electro-magnetic gun?
     
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    It is an electromagnetic gun. They are doing experiments now but from what I have heard the thing is the size of a diesel locomotive. We don't have near the level of tech available that we would need to put it in a tank.
     

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