What do you know about the FEC of general Juin which fought around monte Cassino and Rome? I know they launched brillant attacks on monte Belvedere and monte majo but the french also raped many girls, especially the moroccans. It was one of first great french campaign since the disastrous defeat of 1940 and the french soldiers won the respects of other allies. But i still don't know how many soldiers the FEC numbered (I already saw 100000, 120000 or 150000) by June 1944.
Here is an ORBAT I found. Organisation General commanding the CEFI: Alphonse Juin 2ième Division d'Infanterie Marocaine (2nd DIM or Moroccan Infantry Division) Gal André Dody Arrived in Italy in end November 1943 4th RTM Col Lappara succeeded by Col Bridot (Moroccan Skirmisher Rgt) 1/4 Battalion 2/4 Battalion 3/4 Battalion 5th RTM Col Joppé succeeded by Lt-Col Piatte 1/5 Battalion 2/5 Battalion 3/5 Battalion 8th RTM Col Molle succeeded by Col de Berchoux 1/8 Battalion 2/8 Battalion 3/8 Battalion 3rd RSM Col Pique-Aubrun (Moroccan Spahis Rgt, light armor M5) 1st Squadron 2nd Squadron 3rd Squadron 4th Squadron E.H.R. Auto Services 63ème régiment d'artillerie d'AFRIQUE (63rd African Artillery Rgt) 1/63 Squadron 2/63 Squadron 3/63 Squadron 4/63 Squadron 87th Engineers Battalion Lt-Col Berthezène 41ème groupe colonial de DCA (FTA 41st DCA group) Chief Squadron Blanchet/ Juigner/ Bescond 3ème Division d'Infanterie Algérienne (3rd DIA or Algerian Infantry Division) General Joseph de Goiselard de Monsabert Arrived in Italy in end december 1943 3rd RTA Col Gonzalès de Linarès (Algerian Skirmisher Rgt) 1/3 Battalion 2/3 Battalion 3/3 Battalion 4th RTT Col Roux KIA 27 junary 44 succeded by Lt-Col Guillebaud Tunisian Skirmisher Rgt 1/4 Battalion 2/4 Battalion 3/4 Battalion 7th RTA Col Chapuis 1/7 Battalion 2/7 Battalion 3/7 Battalion 3rd RSAR Lt-Col Bonjour (Recon Algerian Spahis Rgt, light armor M5) 1st Squadron 2nd Squadron 3rd Squadron 4th Squadron E.H.R. Auto Services 67ème régiment d'artillerie marocaine (67th African Artillery Rgt) 1/67 Squadron 2/57 Squadron 3/67 Squadron 4/67 Squadron 83rd Engineers Battalion Chief Battalion Vilette / Colin 37ème groupe de FTA (FTA 37th DCA Group) Col Blanchet 4ème division Marocaine de Montagne (4th DMM or Moroccan Mountain Division) General François Sevez Arrived in Italy in February 44 The 4ième DMM, was nicknamed the "DeMeMe" (in French over accentuation of the spelling). After the use of her mules by the British army it became The Royal Brêl - a Brêl is a mule in the Berber language. 1st RTM Col Brissaud-Desmaillet (Tunisian Skirmisher Rgt) 1/1 Battalion 2/1 Battalion 3/1 Battalion 2nd RTM Col Buot de l'Epine succeeded by Col Deleuze 1/2 Battalion 2/2 Battalion 3/2 Battalion 6th RTM Col Cherrière 1/6 Battalion 2/6 Battalion 3/6 Battalion 4th RSM (Moroccan Spahis Rgt, light armor M5) Col Lambilly Kia 18 May 44 succeeded by Chief Squadron Dodelier 1st Squadron 2nd Squadron 3rd Squadron 4th Squadron E.H.R. Auto Services 69ème régiment d'artillerie d'Afrique (69th RAM Mountain Artillery Rgt) Lt-Col Cerisier 1/69 Squadron 2/69 Squadron 3/69 Squadron 4/69 Squadron 82nd Engineers Battalion Chief Battalion Labouerie 1ére Division Française Libre (1st DFL or Free French Division) Gal Diego Brosset Arrived in Italy in April 1944) Renamed 1st DMI Motorized Infantry Division 1st Brigade Col Delange 13th DBLE Chief Battalion Bablon (Half Brigade of Foreign Legion) I believe most of the Spanish fighting in the Foreign Legion were in this unit ?? 1 BLE Battalion of Foreign Legion 2 BLE 22nd BMNA Bataillon de Marche Nord Africain (North African Battle Group*) 2nd Brigade Lt-Col Garbay 4th BM Bataillon de Marche 5th BM 11th BM 4th Brigade Col Raynal 21st BM 24th BM BIMP Bataillon d'Infanterie de Marine du Pacifique (Marine Infantry Battalion of Pacific) 1st RAC Lt-Col Maubert (Colonial Artillery Rgt) 1/1 Squadron 2/1 Squadron 3/1 Squadron 155 Group (Long Tom) 1st RFM Capitaine de Fregate Amyot d'Inville Kia 10 June 44 succeeded by Capitaine de Corvette de Morsier. Light Armor 1st Squadron 2nd Squadron 3rd Squadron 4th Squadron E.H.R. 21ème groupe colonial antillais de DCA (FTA 21st West Indies AA Group) Chief Battalion Lanlo Goums Marocains (Moroccan Goum) Gal Augustin Guillaume Arrived in Italy between Novenber 43 and April 44. 1st GTM Groupe de Tabors Marocains (Moroccan Tabor Group) Col Leblanc 2nd Tabor Chief Battalion Roussel 51st Goum 61st Goum 62nd Goum 3rd Tabor Chief Battalion Colbert-Turgis 4th Goum 65th Goum 101st Goum 12th Tabor Chief Battalion Leboîteux 12th Goum 63rd Goum 64th Goum 3rd GTM Col Massiet du Biest 9th Tabor Commandant Picardat 81st Goum 82nd Goum 83rd Goum 10th Tabor Commandant Boulet-Desbarreaux 84th Goum 85th Goum 86th Goum 17th Tabor Commandant Alès Kia 5 june 44 / Commandant Parlange 14th Goum 18th Goum 22nd Goum 4th GTM Lt-Col Soulard succeeded by Col Gautier 5th Tabor Captain Parlange / Commandant Villemandy 41st Goum 70th Goum 71st Goum 8th Tabor Commandant Aunis succeeded by Cmdt Pantalacci 78th Goum 79th Goum 80th Goum 11th Tabor Commandant Pejorlas 88th Goum 89th Goum 93th Goum General Reserve Artillery (ARG) 7th RCA Régiment de Chasseurs d'Afrique (African Light Cavalry Rgt**) Lt-Col Van Hecke Tank Destroyer M10 1st Squadron 2nd Squadron 3rd Squadron 4th Squadron E.H.R. Auto Services 8th RCA Lt-Col Simon Tank Destroyer M10 1st Squadron 2nd Squadron 3rd Squadron 4th Squadron E.H.R. Auto Services 64th RAA (African Artillery Rgt) Col Latarse 1/64 Squadron 2/64 Squadron 3/64 Squadron Régiment d'Artillerie Coloniale du Levant (Colonial Artillery Rgt of the Levant) Col Missonier 1st Group 2nd Group Groupe de Canonniers Marins (Marine Artillery Group) 1st Battery Capitaine de Frégate Le Coroller equiped with 155mm GPF (long range Fillioux) these are French guns that the Italians had taken from south France between 40/43 and retrieved after the landing of the allied forces. 2nd Battery Lieutenant de Vaisseau Jourden / Capitaine de Corvette Acloque * a Bataillon de Marche - translated as Battle Group - is a general term use by French for assembling diverse elements from different units it is near the German kampfgruppe but as is name implies it is at most an over strengthen battalion. ** Chasseur literally means Hunter, but historically just represented the equivalent of Light Cavalry in the British army. Given these Chasseurs had Tank Destroyers the designation of Hunter takes on a new meaning. Regiment equivalent. from 1500 to 3000 men. The CEFI artillery is equipped with 105 HM2, 155 GUN, 40 BOFOR. All senior officers and most junior officers of the colonial units where "white" French. Junior officers and NCOs were either French or native depending of the area they came from. FTA is Forces Terrestre Antiaériennes (AA Ground Forces) EHR is Escadron Hors Rang (Outstanding Squadron). The EHR is the squadron whose function is to run the day to day activities of a unit. It is responsible of the supply and the administration, all but the mechanical duties. In each fighting squadrons there is a PHR, a platoon who had the same functions as the EHR. French Expeditionary Corp (FEC) / Corps Expéditionnaire Français en Italie (CEFI )
I found this also, The Corps Expeditionnaire Francais, fought in the Italian campaign between 1943-44, before being withdrawn to participate in 'Operation Dragoon'. It was a Corps that had an approximate strength of 99,000 men and consisted of the following units; 1st Moroccan Infantry Division 2nd Moroccan Infantry Division 3rd Algerian Infantry Division 4th Moroccan Mountain Division 4th Tunisian Tirailleurs Regiment Their commanding officer, General Alphonse Juin,issued a proclamation on May 14th 1944 that he hoped would spur his men to victory and break the stalemate on the Gustav line. However,his proclamation would become highly controversial as it condemned the local population in the immediate path of the French advance, to become the victims of truly barbaric behaviour. Here is part of the transcript issued to the troops, "Beyond these mountains, beyond those enemies who tonight you will kill, there is one earth rich and wide with women, wine and houses. If you succeed to advance beyond that line without leaving a single enemy alive, your general promises, swears and proclaims to you that those houses, women and wine, all that you may encounter will be yours, for your pleasure and will be so for 50 hours. And you will be able to have it all, to take it all, to destroy and carry away if you win, for you have deserved it." In what became known as 'The Battle of the Garigliano', the French attacked through the Aurunici mountains and succeeded in their objective of outflanking the defenders of the Gustav line and reaching the area of Pontecorvo by 21st May 1944. However,the campaign became infamous due to the atrocities perpertrated mainly by soldiers of two units of the C.E.F., these being the 2nd Moroccan infantry division and the 4th Moroccan mountain division. There were reports of widespread rape in the villages of Patricia, Pofi, Isoletta, Supino and Morolo. Additionally, in the village of Lesola which was captured on May 21st 1944, 50 women were raped as well as children and even the elders. The women here were assaulted and raped by pairs of Moroccan soldiers, which left them with serious lesions and injuries to their private parts. The worst atrocities were reported at the town of Esperia in the Ciociaria region, which fell on May 17th 1944. It is estimated that 3,500 women between the ages of 8-85 years of age were brutally raped, and that 800 of the local men who attempted to protect their womenfolk were raped and then impaled. Even the local priest, Don Alberto Terulli did not escape, thus being raped, tortured and eventually murdered. The official newspaper of the Vatican, 'Osservatore Romano' was the first to condemn the atrocities of the Moroccan 'goumiers', and the pope requested the Allied high command not to send the French to liberate Rome. It was shortly after these atrocities became known that the C.E.F. was withdrawn from the Italian front in readiness for the invasion of Southern France. The French military immediatly investigated some of the allegations against the Moroccan soldiers,resulting in 15 of the 40 put on trial being shot on 26th June 1944. Unsurprisingly, charges were never brought against General Juin whom many believe was the instigator of the atrocities. By the end of the war a further 360 French colonial troops were found guilty of various crimes committed during the war,with 40 shot and the rest having heavy prison sentences. After the war the subject of the French atrocities was still very much an emotional and contentious issue in Italy,leading to the writing of a novel,'La Ciociaria' which was later made into a film of the same name starring Sophia Loren.In 1965 a local Italian politician lobbied the French government to try and get compensation for the Italian victims, some of whom were still suffering, having been driven insane by their experiences at the hands of the Colonial French troops. Compensation was eventually forthcoming thus acknowledging the guilt of the French military.
Yes, thank you very much. During the war (without 1940), approximatively 460,000 men were mobilized in Africa, including 168000 pieds-noirs, 233,000 native of oversea France, 20000 metropolitan who escaped from France, and 35000 corsicans. But were they any tank ?
for those who don't know what a pied noir is = a European settler in North Africa who was born in Algeria, Tunesia or Morocco. They were usually French (many descendants of Alsatian refgees of the1870 war) .Others had Italian or Spanish origins.
They were relatively few in morocco, a bit more in Tunisia but the real land of the pieds-noirs was algeria.
A few years ago, I put together some uniforms to depict soldiers of the FEC, and in the process I restored two WW 2 helmets and repainted them with the correct insignias. It was a fun project for a weekend. The first image is a US helmet, with the FEC tricolor on the right side. The colors were sometimes on the left, or in a few instances on both sides. http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc76/poilu-1940/Free%20French%20helmets/DCP_1318.jpg These images are of a WW 2 British shell, with the Cross of Lorraine painted on it's side. These were painted up as such mostly during the North African campaign, but they went on to be issued to soldiers of the FEC, mainly the renowned Goumiers. http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc76/poilu-1940/Free French helmets/DCP_1319.jpg http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc76/poilu-1940/Free French helmets/DCP_1321.jpg
But the FEC mainly used Adrian helmet 1926, except the goumiers. Are your sure the first helemt is not from the 1st french army?
It's true many in the FEC wore the French Adrian helmet, with the front badges plucked out. There were however several artillery support units, HQ, and rear echelons which did have the US M1 helmet. I have a nice picture of a French soldier in Italy calling for artillery, and he is wearing this helmet. I will try to locate it and post it here. Yes, you're right the French 1st Armee in 1944-45 had them as well. there were also many who still wore the British helmet, the old French helmet, and even the little groups commando wore the m35 French tanker helmet.
Very true, but those were not painted with any insignia as they were distributed mostly after the North African campaign. That is not to say it never happened, I just have not read or seen any evidence of this yet.
Metropolitans = from continental france Pieds noirs= French from North Afica Natives: North African Muslims, Senegalese Corsicans: French from the Island of Corsica (liberated in 1943)
The french soldiers were decisive in the battle for gustav lines also. They took monte Santa croce, monte Belvedere, monte Majo and the Liri Valley. What is your opinion about the french soldiers in this campaign ?
Here is the fictionalised version of the attack on the Arunci https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P45TTGT2XhY&list=PL5mR0PxdNDZ7rlAic_Y5r-4O7LqOqinVn