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The world's best assult rifle?

Discussion in 'The Guns Galore Section' started by Sgt. Barger, Jul 16, 2007.

  1. Sgt. Barger

    Sgt. Barger New Member

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    What do you think is the world's best assult rifle?

    In my opinion, it is the H&K G36 because it needs less cleaning than an M-16, is also used as an LMG, has a built in red dot scope, and also shoots the same bullet as an M-16 :kill:
     
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    Brown Bess! :wink:
     
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    Here we go again ;)

    My vote go to AK-47 we all know why.
     
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    I'm going with the AK-47 too. :wink:
     
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    Good luck with that. :cool:

    Didn't win the war for the British.
     
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    Depands on which war you are talking about.

    Alrighty then, I'll go more modern.

    Ruger 10/22. It's a semi-auto and with an optional high capacity magazine, that classifies it as an assault weapon in some places.
     
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    I always understood the accepted definition (Although Tony usually points out there is no "Official" definition) is:

    Carbine Length
    Selective Fire
    Detachable box magazine
    Chambers an Intermediate cartridge.

    So long as all those four boxes are ticked, it's an assault rifle.
     
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    This sort of thread interests me for the following reason, when posters give their answers, in this case best assault rifle, are they speaking from experience or from books, or is it a case of it's 'cool'?
    I personally have only fired a Lee Enfield .303 so am not qualified to post on this subject, but how many of you are writing from experience?
     
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    Re: rifle

    Good question, Merlin.

    Weapons I'm personally familiar with and how (from memory):

    Military training/use:

    M-14, M-16A1, M-60 machine gun, M2 .50cal. machine gun, M-72 LAAW, M-79 grenade launcher, M26A1 hand fragmentation grenade, Mark II hand grenade, M1911A1 .45 cal. pistol. S&W .38 cal. revolver (aircrew issue only).

    Personally own:
    .22 cal rifle, 12 gauge shotgun, 7.92mm (mauser) Yugo version of K-98k, S&W .357 magnum revolver, .25 cal auto pistol.

    Weapons I have fired either owned by friends or at various ranges over the years:

    .58 caliber black powder civil war replica, 20 gauge Mossberg shotgun, .410 gauge Stevens shotgun, .303 Lee Enfield, .308 cal Winchester, 30-30 Winchester, AK-47, .243 cal Remington bolt action and .270 cal Winchester bolt action, 9mm parabellum luger, Glock 9mm, S&W .44 magnum revolver.

    I think that's about it. I'm sure I'm forgetting a few somewhere over the years.
     
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    Grieg, you have just jogged the old memory cells, many years a go I had (illegaly) a Winchester .22. single shot. centre fire, falling block rifle. Beneath the lever was engraved 'Patented Oct.79', so it must have been 1879. The .22 case was enlarged not like the straight case of .22 today, I had to bush the chamber (the bush cracked after a few shots) and change the firing pin to rim-fire. Later I swopped this for a 1916 Lee Enfied, smooth bored to use on shotgun licence,I only wanted it as collectors piece but I had to have a shotgun licence, I later sold it to a re-enactor for £90.! Any info on the Winchester of that model would be appreciated (When I said I'd only fired a Lee Enfield I meant a rifle as the thread asked not the various odds and sods that came along.)
    The person I had the rifle from was a WW1 army officer who also had a .45 Smith and Wesson.
     
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    Re: rifle

    You do go back aways, Merlin. Yes, a falling block .22 centerfire I have all idea it was indeed from 1879. And a Lee Enfield used as a shotgun that is interesting indeed. I had no idea, but on second thought why not? It would serve and no doubt be better made than your average shotgun.
     
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    As far as I'm concerned, the best assault rifle is the one you have in your hands when you need to return fire.

    Downstairs, I have a Ruger Mini-14. That'll do me just fine, in most circumstances I'm likely to meet in my neighborhood.
     
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    I did not shoot from any western weapon ,main reason is that there is no any here :D

    Used PKT ,r serbian version M-84 LMG it was my main weapon,but i allso had training from AK-47 (M-70,M-70AB2),M-72 ( a bit overgrown AK-47),varius pistols (CZ-99,famous TT tokarev allso) ,PASP ( dragunov Sniper) and Scorpion machine-pistol.From....diferent types of weapons i used hand granade ,and RB "zolja" (similar to LAW launcher)

    In prsonal use,i mainly shooted from small arms and hunting weapon,used pretty much ewerything what exist here.
     
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    A good reliable gun that served us well for a (slightlty too) long time.

    Sadly though it was a smoothbore and not a rifle. :wink:
     
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    Grieg. in post-war UK a great number of Lee Enfields were converted to .410 shotguns. As a collector it was easy to obtain a shot gun licence as against a 'firearms certificate' my application was signed by my bank manager. (For the .22 Winchester I would have required a firearms cert.)
    I also had two German flare pistols from aircraft, one of them quite illegally sleeved to 12bore!!! this I removed sleeve and never fired. In early post war UK there were many guns floating about, I recall one of my fellow mechanics (textile) making three different sized screw drivers in exchange for a Walther pistol (with swastika and Eagle on butt plates) from an ex army man who worked on the knitting machines.
    (the flare pistols were later swopped for a sword from a Nottingham dealer.)
     
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    Re: rifle

    Based on their opinion from all of them except being 'cool'
     
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    Why the AK again? Sure it is cheap, but that's it.
    poor accuracy
    larger cartridge than that of tha G36 and M-16, so more expensive to ship the ammo

    the M-16 is almost the same, but there are some rifles that are newer, and more reliable. The AK really lacks accuracy. The Russians use them because they don't use small forces to get one objective completed. They use big masses and force to get something done. so who really cares if it is accurate if there are 80 guys going to take something that would take the U.S. 2 or 3 men to get to?

    I don't want this to become another M-16 vs AK thing again.
     
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    Pulling numbers like this out of thin air isn't particularly helpful in debates and to be honest unless you can support them I'd avoid doing so.
     
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    assault rifles

    I don't really understand this post from Sgt. Barger.
    Would you please explain to me?
    Quote."Based on their opinion from all of them except being 'cool'.
     
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    Perhaps, but at the range they're designed to be use at, they are more powerful than the 5.56 round the M16 used.

    I've fired both. Working at closer ranges, I'd take the AK in a heartbeat. If I knew I was in open terrain, where the range advantage of the M16 would be important, I'd take that. I could start doing damage long before the other guy got close.

    Then again, based on my knowledge of the SOVs, and the Pact, they'd probably just call in an arty battery on my ass, so it would be irrelevant! :lol:
     

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