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To send a shiver up collectors of Militaria...

Discussion in 'Militaria' started by von Poop, May 8, 2014.

  1. von Poop

    von Poop Waspish WW2|ORG Editor

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    Otto No More Half Measures WW2|ORG Editor

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    One auction has 14 watchers, another 17 watchers. These are sought after items.
     
  3. formerjughead

    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    I am not sure if there needs to be a law against couterfeit proof stamps, but; there should definitely be a punishment.
     
  4. KJ Jr

    KJ Jr Well-Known Member

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    Very disheartening
     
  5. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    Urgh. Makes me glad I was collecting when I was...if that makes sense........
     
  6. jagdpanther44

    jagdpanther44 Battlefield wanderer

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    The fake WaA stamps have been popping up on eBay and a US gun site for a number of years now but I've never come across the RZM and Kriegsmarine stamps before.

    Quite scary to think what they may be used on to hoodwink unsuspecting buyers.
     
  7. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    These guys make me sick. Soon or late these marked items will be found on the market and sold as "real". I'm am getting so cautious that I sometimes prefer not to buy something which could be real because of those polluters.

    I noted the fake numbers and will post them in our future "spot the fake" section later .

    Fake Waffen amts are (could start with an "A" or not) 80 , 37, 359,135,280,63,655,623,214, 26
    Maker : "Byf 43" "bnz" "k98"

    the other ones are so obvious ..... (P38 PO8 K98 SA RZM KM etc....)
     
  8. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    I'm always a little bit dubious about anything marked 'SS', or signed by 'J. Peiper', 'A. Hitler', etc........ :cutie:
     
  9. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    What about A Peiper? :dance4:
     
  10. formerjughead

    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    well that would depend on whether or not he had a peck of pickled peppers
     
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    Skipper Kommodore

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    Pickled Peipers :rofl:
     
  12. Fred Wilson

    Fred Wilson "The" Rogue of Rogues

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    von Poop Waspish WW2|ORG Editor

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    Fred Wilson "The" Rogue of Rogues

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    I just think it borders on sinful for family to sell medals etc like that - for small financial reward.
    Generations to follow will curse them for it. Nuff Said Fred. (Different strokes for different folks...)
     
  15. von Poop

    von Poop Waspish WW2|ORG Editor

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    No, not enough said.
    You may think what you like, but such sales are perfectly legitimate & legal. They also often mean things end up with people who actually give a toss about them.

    Those medals bear no relation to fake stamps that could be easily used to defraud genuine buyers.
    The sale of medals doesn't send a real shiver up any Militaria collectors I know, and though some people find it unsettling I absolutely do not understand what it has to do with this thread.
     
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    Many families just end up going through the crawl spaces and attics and come across boxes of memorabilia. Perhaps they had no idea such artifacts existed. In my humble opinion it's really a matter of personal preference. If a family member of a loved one who fought in the Second World War wants to sell their medals and loot, that's up to them. I do agree with Fred, I can't imagine ever selling such things for profit, but to each his/her own. However, as Von Poop mentioned above, someone who purchases said items will cherish it for years to come and will hold onto the history. My issue derives from the resale of the items for profit. Buying historical artifacts just to turn a profit back on the market is what I find unsettling. I know I'm biased towards WW2 memorabilia. I happen to enjoy shows like American Pickers, but sometimes cringe at some of the items they sell.
     
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    Fred, I see where you are coming from and agree with your statement, but here is my take;

    Its a shame when someone sells medals that belonged to one of their family members, but it many cases it means that they no longer appreciate them. At least they'll end up in the hands of a collector that will show them a bit more respect. What's better -- to have a batch of medals lying forgotten under a pile of papers in a drawer, or in the hands of a collector?
     
  18. Fred Wilson

    Fred Wilson "The" Rogue of Rogues

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    Then the next generation or two, in my case, comes along and does a 40 year search for them to no avail.
    I would give my eye teeth for my Grandfather's WW1 medals. My take...
     
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    On a personal and emotional level I can imagine the frustration of family members searching for service members artifacts.
     
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    von Poop Waspish WW2|ORG Editor

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    But it still has sod all to do with faking militaria.
    Entirely puzzled by the random interjection of it in a thread that has no connection whatsoever.
    Hohum.
     

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