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Top ten Worlds Best Leaders

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    smeghead phpbb3 New Member

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    Ok, we've heard who are the 10 best US Presidents of all time, but who do you think are the top 10 Worlds best leaders??
    Heres what I think in no particular order.

    - Nelson Mandella - For ending Apartheid
    - Abraham Lincoln - For abolishing Slavery
    - Mikhail Gorbachev -For implmenting Glasnost and Perestroika
    - Charles De Gaulle- For Rebuilding France
    - Winston Churchill- For Defending Britain
    - Nikita Khrushchev - For reforming the USSR
    - Yasser Arafat - For attempts to resolve Israel-Palestine conflict (anyone notice whats been happening since he left??)
    - Kofi Annan - For service in the UN
    - Helmut Kohl - For unifying Germany
    - Bill Clinton - For running America they extremely well in general :D
     
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    Ricky Well-Known Member

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    Just because I'm feeling in a 'pick holes in things' mood... ;)

    But only in the USA. Slavery had been abolished in Europe (and a few other areas) long before.

    ...with American money

    Oh great, he made sure that a nation that invades its neighbours (Afghanistan & Czechoslovaki), represses its population and threatens to plunge the world into nuclear war stayed alive longer...

    And it was different how when he was in control? Yasser did nothing to curb terrorism, and a lot to encourage it.


    That'll do for now... :D
     
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    The Surplus he claimed to have was never there. At least according to CNN the most untrusted name in news.
     
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    Smeghead, why are all your choices 20th century leaders? Arguably the 20th century wasn't exactly a political golden age in human history...

    My choice for best politician/national leader ever is always Bismarck. All other statesmen in the history of the world stand in the shadow of his intelligence, ruthlessness, dedication and opportunism, exactly the traits needed to bring a state to power. Morally, there is no defence for his actions other than that he made Prussia a world power by unifying Germany around it - and we all know where that led.
     
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    Tied with Fidel Castro for services involving cigars

    OK, lots of good ones before C20...

    Napoleon
    Gladstone
    Pitt (two chances here)
    Cromwell?
    Richelieu
    Peter The Great
    Charlemagne
    Alexander

    The proto-amphibian who told his squad to "Get out of the water and HIT THAT BEACH!"

    Tom
     
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    Napoleon and Alexander were the 'Hitlers' or their time
     
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    Yeesh Ricky, what do you want me to do? make him better?

    Liberate, the word is liberate... not invade :D
    Take a look at the other USSR presidential 'candidates' in 1952 and I think you'll find the world WOULD have been cast into Nuclear war

    The people handing out the Nobel Peace Prize didn't think so... but what do they know
     
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    Just look at the list of peace prize winners and it makes you wonder seriously about the Nobel Committee
     
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    :eek: :eek: Are these the same guys who voted Hitler "man of the year" 1938?
     
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    Not too up on my South African politics, but didn't FW De Klerk end appartheit rather than Mandela?
     
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    Ehh, no, unless you can separate the Hitler who ordered his Generals to conquer Europe from the Hitler who ordered 12 million of his own people massacred. In that case the first Hitler, in spite of the second Hitler, could still hardly be seen as the great Generals that Alexander and Napoleon were themselves.
     
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    what's your opinion on Josip Broz Tito?
     
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    tito was a great lreader without a dought....he galvanized the balkans through shere force of will,fou ght the germans to a standstill almost ,and with very little support.then he was able to stand toe to toe with sweet old uncle joe after the war....when he died the balkans became once again,balkanized,..
     
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    Or alternatively he was a Stalinist-type leader who held Yugoslavia together by intimidation... ;)
     
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    Better to hold it togethor than to let it fall apart.
     
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    Better to seperate it peacefully than let it rip itself apart in bloody civil war...
     
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    And What about Mr Lee Kuan Yew?
     
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    Wait a minute-Kaiser? Wasn't he the guy who was off to the army for 2 years? I read that topic.
     
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    i believe that is his son,Mr Lee Hsien Long, the current prime minister of Singapore.
     
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    oh ur talking about me?well i am still in the army...navy now. What's so special about that?
     

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