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Discussion in 'Western Europe 1943 - 1945' started by Charles Vernon, Aug 9, 2010.

  1. Charles Vernon

    Charles Vernon Member

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    I am researching the role of my home town, Malmesbury Wiltshire England, in WW2. In the 12 months between November 1943 and November 1944 a large number of American units transited through this area on the way to NW Europe. They camped in the grounds of two large houses - Pinkney Park near Sherston and Charlton Park.

    Having found on the web details of the units and the approximate lengths of their stay (varying from a few weeks to a few months) I am trying to estimate the total number of troops. Whilst the TOE of combat units are easily found I'm having more trouble with the support units. In particular;

    Quartermaster Battalion
    Quartermaster Service Company
    Quartermaster Troop Transport Company
    Quartermaster Truck Company
    Engineer Light Equipment Company
    Engineer Combat Battalion
    Medical Section (numbered 268 to 282 with no other detail)
    Hospital Train
    Field Hospital
    Station Hospital

    Many of the units comprised colored soldiers and one can imagine the problems they might have encountered in this relatively rural backwater. I have found press reports of 'ladies of easy virtue' not in the first flush of youth who came here from the East end of London (described as 'known associates of coloured troops') arrested in possesion of US Army equipment (blankets & torches!) and large amounts of cash.

    Can anyone help with a rough estimate of the number of troops in each of these types of unit?

    Charles
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member Patron   WW2|ORG Editor

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    I can help you with a good many of them, but it will have to be tonight (US time), when I am at home.
     
  3. Charles Vernon

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    Thanks - I've been working on this project for a couple of years so a couple of days won't cause any heartache. Trouble is I've so much information it's difficult to pick out the important bits!

    However having 1 Regiment, 38 Battalions & 36 Companies plus other miscellaneous units of US troops pass through the area in 12 months does seem significant to me! Even if they were not meant to leave their camps there would still have been a lot of contact between the locals and the visitors.

    In fact 626 Engineer Light Equipment Company did use their mechanical plant to complete some reshaping of the landscape in the centre of Sherston so they are certainly still remembered hereabouts.

    Charles
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member Patron   WW2|ORG Editor

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    I thought I might have what you are looking for, but it was for the wrong war. Apologies please.
     
  5. Charles Vernon

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    Thanks for looking. Do you think 100 for a Company sized unit and 500 for a Battalion would be reasonable estimates?? Although I guess support units have a greater equipment per man ratio than combat units and these may be overestimates.

    Cheers,
    Charles
     
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    For an Armored Division Services I have:
    Division Medical - Composed of:
    Medical section - 12 officers, 5 NCO's, and 169 men
    Surgical unit - 3-0-25
    Dental unit - 1-0-3
    2 x Field Hospital - 6-2-54 each.

    For the 7th Cav brigade 1 April 1940
    I have
    QM troop LT Maint 2 officers and 90 men (ie a company)
    Engineering Troop - 4 officers 128 men
    Medical Troop - 6 officers 90 men

    From the same time period I have a Service troop (company) for a cav regiment with 4 officers and 95 men.

    for a 1 march 1942 Armored Engineer Battalion 44-2-1,178
    Armored Engineer companys (4) - 5 officers 197 men each

    All from The Tactical Notebook
     
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    For an Armored Regiment Service company 1 March 42 it lists 5 officers, 2 NCOs, and 184 men
    The service Company for an Armored Division at the same time is listed as 7-1-152
    the Armored Engineer battalion for said division is listed as 40-2-1,132

    That's about all I can dig out. Hope it helped some.

    You might find some useful infor digging around here:
    http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/WWII/
    http://www.qmfound.com/history.html
    http://www.quartermaster.army.mil/qm_history.html

    This page lists some references that might be useful as well:
    http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/index.html
     
  8. Charles Vernon

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    Thanks very much - another few nuggets of information added to my store!

    Charles
     
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    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Any Americans who can point me to some info would be great thanks....Cheltenham UK was HQ for US SOS before D Day. Yanks everywhere...But little info on them. Quartermaster troops lots of them coloured troops. We have a village of Boddington/Barrow in the area as well as Boddington village in Northamptonshire. Can anyone point me to what US troops were stationed in either of these two Boddingtons in the war if any? Would most probably have been qm troops and coloured if the surrounding units are any example. Thanks
     

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