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  1. bronk7

    bronk7 Well-Known Member

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    ....a USMC Boot Camper died..... supposedly during the Crucible--the last and ''toughest'' part of Boot Camp...might have been partly from the heat/etc.....
    ....I went to MCRD San Diego in the fall--and we did not have the Crucible
    ........according to the article on the death, temps were in the upper 80s and humidity 60% to 70%--which appears to be about the same as Camp Lejeune NC, where I was stationed for 4 years....when we were not in the field, I thought they were over cautious about training in the heat -- weird ......in the field, sometimes we barely got any sleep
    --what can you do? you have to do '''realistic'' training .....
    ..if there is a thread on this already, please advise
    911 calls raise questions about Marine recruit’s death during Parris Island’s ‘Crucible’
     
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    Take a cold shower before sleeping?
     
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    ..a very interesting article!! ty .....
    ..I remember when I was young, we did not have air conditioning...and, we played outside a lot......I would sit outside, in the summer heat [ reading about WW2 ] for hours .....
    ....my dad would sleep in our un-insulated, un-heated or cooled, ''finished'' back porch--it was like a sauna in the summer!!!--he was at the Chosin, where it was 30 below zero........I would sleep there in the winter, but not summer
    ....I would walk 3 miles to work when the temps got below 15 F.....I biked the other times...no problems
    ...maybe today's kids are too used to not being in the heat, as much.....??!!
    ..I thought I read where newbies had problems with the heat in Vietnam....??

    ...I know I have told people that complain about the hot or cold temps, that it's not that bad ..they only have to walk to their cars --which are heated and cooled....


    I did a quick search of Darwin temps...it said lowest is 71.....is that true?
     
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    That’s usually right, but in the dry season it can get to 17C and is chilly early morning…but the day will still be 30C+…they did test a few years ago, testing heat tolerances between Darwin tradesmen and southern…and what we already knew was the result. Territory men can stand 2C - 5C more heat before showing the same heat reactions…conditioning is the key…and it turns out that as little as 2 weeks can give a good level of conditioning to heat…
     
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    ty---
    ty....like I said, the ''climatizing''/etc is very interesting ..it's some of the ''realistic''' issues I talk a lot about
     
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    Well, my view about it, but only mine. I was in Madrid and it was +40 C degrees and we could wear suits.No problem except the heat, no sweating. When I was in Bosnia, the humidity was high, and one of our medical unit member had been to Finland for a month. When he came back, he sweated for two weeks all the time instead of the rest of us. Then the sweating stopped. Personally I see it as combined humidity+high temperature that make you sweat what ever you do. I might be wrong anyway but that is my view why people sweat in certain countries like showers. .
     
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    ...good call on humidity...I was in Hawaii for about a year and a half...when I got back to my hometown, I could tell a big difference with the humidity/etc...I was playing tennis in it ....
    Why it’s Harder to Exercise in Humid Conditions
     
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    My view again. If I went to Asia like Thailand I would go and spend the time easily for two weeks and then activate physical stuff when the sweat glands have deactivated to the humidity.
     

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