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  1. Hoosier phpbb3

    Hoosier phpbb3 New Member

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    The US Marine Corps trained war-dogs specifically for use with handlers/scouts in the Pacific island invasions during WW2. On Guam alone, 350 war-dogs served with 20 wounded and 25 killed in the course of the asssault.

    Did any other armies train and implement such "teams" for assaults... or were dogs used only to guard sensitive bases, airfields and installations?

    The story of the USMC "War-Dogs" is an interesting subject. Many dogs were de-programmed and found homes with their handlers or original owners after the war.

    Tim
     
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    Good topic - as a dog lover (I'm English), I would be very interested to know more about stuff like this too - perhaps also the USNs experiments with dolphins and the widespread use of horses, pack animals, elephants, carrier pigeons & falconry as a countermeasure too.

    But please - no jokes like this one -

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080641/

    :-?
     
  3. Hoosier phpbb3

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    War Dogs on Guam
    (from Marines in WW2 Commemorative Series website:

    "In the late summer of 1942, the Marine Corps decided to experiment with the use of dogs in war, which may have been a new departure for the Corps, but not a new idea in warfare. Since ancient times, dogs have served fighting men in various ways. The Romans, for instance, used heavy mastiffs with armored collars to attack the legs of their enemies, thus forcing them to lower their shields.

    On Guam, First Lieutenant William R. Putney commanded the 1st Dog Platoon and was the veterinarian for all war dogs on Guam. First Lieutenant William T. Taylor commanded the 2d Platoon. Both landed on the Asan-Adelup beach on Guam, while the 1st Platoon under Gunnery Sergeant L. C. Christmore landed with the 1st Provisional Brigade at Agat.

    Sixty dogs, 90 handlers, 10 NCO assistants, two war dog corpsmen, and three kennelmen were distributed among the regimental and division headquarters of the 3d Marine Division. Lieutenant Putney commanded the 36 handlers and 24 dogs out of division headquarters. Overall, some 350 war dogs served in the Guam operation.


    Handlers were trained dog specialists and skilled scouts as well. Man and dog searched out the enemy, awaited his coming, and caught him by surprise around the Marine perimeter or while on patrol. In addition, they found snipers, routed stragglers, searched out caves and pillboxes, ran messages, and protected the Marines' foxholes as they would private homes. The dogs ate, slept, walked, and otherwise lived with their masters.

    The presence of dogs on the line could promise the Marines there a night's sleep, for they alerted their handlers when the enemy came near.
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    an exerpt from the same website during the Guam campaign:

    In the 1st Battalion, 9th Marines, sector, Private Dale Fetzer, a dog handler assigned with his black Labrador Retriever alerted Company C. The dog, Skipper, who had been asleep in front of his handler's foxhole suddenly bolted upright, alerting Fetzer. Skipper's nose was pointed up and directly toward Mount Tenjo. "Get the lieutenant!" called handler Fetzer, "They're coming."
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    Early on in the Guam operations, some dogs were wounded or killed by machine gun and rifle fire, and incoming mortars were as devastating to the dogs as they were to the Marines. When the dogs were wounded, the Marines made a point of getting them to the rear, to the veterinarian, as quickly as possible. In the liberation of Guam, 20 dogs were wounded and 25 killed.

    From the end of the campaign to the end of the war in the Pacific, Guam served as a staging area for war dogs, of which 465 served in combat operations. Of the Marine Corps war dogs, 85 percent were Doberman Pinschers, and the rest mainly German Shepherds.

    At the end of the Pacific War, the Marine Corps had 510 war dogs. Of this number, 491 were deprogrammed, a process that could take a year, and returned to their owners, given to their handlers, or returned to the Army, which had provided 41 to the Corps. Only four dogs could not be returned to their masters because, even after extensive retraining, they proved "incorrigible" and were considered to be unsafe for civilian life."
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    Tim
     
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    bosworth gannaway New Member

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    The Russians used dogs as anti tank weaponry. The dogs were only ever fed whilst underneath a tank with it's engine running. Then, at the Front, the dogs were starved before having a mines strapped to them and were then let go near the German tanks. The mine had a stick fitted to the top and when the stick struck the tank the mine would explode.
     
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    merlin phpbb3 New Member

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    post

    "Knock, Knock"
    "Who's there?"
    "Adolph"
    "Adolph who?"
    "You've got a short memory".
     
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    me262 phpbb3 New Member

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    but the trick with the dogs backfired on the russians, since the dogs were trained under russian tanks, obviously they seek russian tanks!!!!
     
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    bosworth gannaway New Member

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    You may well be right, amigo !
     
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    I believe this one has been thoroughly debunked on here before now.
     
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    I like that joke merlin. :D
     
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    merlin phpbb3 New Member

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    Jokes

    Not nearly as funny as the ones posted by Bosworth/Marlon! :grin:
     

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