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  1. ray243

    ray243 New Member

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    what happen if Hitler did not know that Rommel was part of the assination and did not kill him...but soon after the germany surrended, the allies put a lot of germany war leaders on trial and a number was excuted, will Rommel be put on trial, if yes, what sentence will be made?
     
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    As far as I know, only supreme commanders of the German army and people suspected of war crimes were sentenced in Nürnberg. Was Rommel suspected of war crimes? I don't think so, and if not he would only have been tried for being a Field Marshal under Hitler.
     
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    Rommel was in charge of the Atlantic Wall, and great use of slave labour was made...
     
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    Organisation Todt was forced into Rommel's command, he neither founded it nor asked to use it. I doubt they would have condemned him for making use of the only work force available to him.
     
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    Roel, your faith in human nature is touching...
    :grin:

    But seriously, I doubt they would have been able to try him in that way, unless they got a good propaganda campaign up.
    Rommel was not ever (as far as I know) seen as a 'Nazi' German, but as a 'Soldier' German.
     
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    rommel was viewed with great respect and admiration by the ordinary british soldier, they certainly didnt view him as a nazi and to have put him on trial for war crimes would have been very unpopular.

    anyhow wot could u try him 4?
     
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    Had the assassination plot succeeded, Rommel would have lead Germany.

    In such a case, Rommel would have been a hero to the Allies as well as the Germans.

    Had he survived the war under Hitler, he would have been subjected to the same "revenge" that so many other German Generals were subjected to: trial and imprisonmnet.

    Nuremburg was a simple case of revenge; there was no justice to it.

    :smok:
     
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    Grated what they were all primarily guilty of was being on the losing side but to say there was no justice is in my opinion too strong. Is there anyone here that can say with a straight face that the Nazis top brass didn't deserve punishment? Or that not knowing of the horrors inflicted because you chose not to look is a sound defense?

    What of the modern world how many dictators are allowed to slink off to a comfortable exile after plundering their countries. Should they not be call to account? What of western politicians who are quick to wash their hands of everything they did once they leave office?

    Just a thought
     
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    I'm sure that they would be able to dig up some unsavoury events that happened under Rommel (Slave labour, for instance, as already noted).
    However, given his reputation, his peers among the Allies might stick up for him in court, as happened with Skorzeney (spelling?)

    If they had tried him, and convicted him, yes, that would be revenge over justice, in my opinion. Would it have happened?
    Most likely outcome is a trial for the completeness of things (must try all German officers) which ends up aquitting him.
     
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    I think the fate of Admiral Karl Doenitz commander of the U-Boats, later CinC of the kreigmarine, later still Hitlers appointed successor, gives us a good idea of Rommels possible fate. Doenitz was politically much further up the food chain than Rommel and served nearly 12 years in jail. Had Rommel survived to be tried at Nuremburg he would, I'd say, be extremely unlikely to be excuted but would have likely spent as much as a decade in jail.
     
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    And after that would either move to Spain or become a teacher at Sandhurst or West Point!
     
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    just as a question how many german field commanders were actually tried and what kinda sentences were dished out.?

    ive neva really taken much interest in wot happened at nurenberg b4
     
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    Wilhlem Keitel, Chief of Staff OKW: Death
    Alfred Jodl, Chief of Operations OKW: Death
    Hermann Göring: Death (as far as I know?)

    Himmler took his own life, as did Göbbels. Dönitz, as mentioned above, got 12 years. Albert Speer got 20 years. The rest of the convicts were mostly real Nazis, criminals and committers of genocide.
     
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    post subject

    GORING (keine umlaut!!!) took cyanide.
    But the Russians hung them by the lorry load.
    Put them in the back of lorries, ropes around necks, drove lorries away.
     
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    I have always admired Rommel, I still think that he's a better commander than the Monty, that's another topic. Rommel never joined the Nazis party, he refused to give in and execute the Nazi solute even in the presence of Hitler, which often irritated the Fuhrer.
    Though he wasn't directly responsible for the German atrocities, the fact that he was a symbol of the German army pretty much ensured that he will be trialed and found guilty for something. On the flip side, Rommel is a German icon and a hero to its people, with the emergence of the post-war US vs Russia rivalry, Rommel would probably have been released after a few years from prison. I won't be surprise if he is given command in the new German army. Hey, if Adolf Galland can escape to Argentina and then returned to be the chief of the new Luftwaffe, why can't the desert fox make a return?
     
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    i was looking for actual field commanders not general staff
    ppl like guderian, rundstsedt, manstien etc wot happened to them?
     
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    Were I the commandant at West Point, I'd have had Rommel teaching there if I had to use force to get him! :wink:
     
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    No idea, sorry.

    Göring was written with an Umlaut though, trackpin! :grin:
     
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    i would suggest if anyone knew wot happened to these commanders then pretty much the same would have happened to rommel.
     
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    That would be accurate, yes. But I don't think they were tried at Nürnberg at all.

    Okay, here's a list I found of the defendants of Nuremberg and their sentences. (from here.) I copied only the military leaders.

    Karl Dönitz. Ten years.
    Hermann Göring. Death (committed suicide before his execution could be carried out).
    Alfred Jodl. Death.
    Wilhlem Keitel. Death.
    Erich Räder. Life (got out after nine years).
    Baldur von Schirach. 20 Years.
     

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