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  1. Takao

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    The OBBs had plenty of shore bombardment action between 1943-45, but during 1942, it was mostly patrolling and convoy escort. The fast BBs were mostly carrier escorts with some shore bombardment to liven things up.

    The Wee Vee, California, and Tenneessee had things their own way at Surigao, the other OBBs with older fire control radar had great trouble finding their targets - Mississippi fired only one broadside, and Pennsylvania never fired a shot.
     
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    ....not much action considering time to and from stations/battles/refueling/etc...?..even battles like the Marianas Turkey Shoot, air knocked a lot down before they got to the fleet...
    ,,,fast BBs missed Samar battle --kind of shows how they were ''obsolete''
     
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    here it is--wow--I just read this yesterday or Friday..from Three Battles: Arnaville, Altuzzo, and Schmidt by MacDonald and Mathews page 103:
    book is hard cover and very nice....maps are fantastic....panoramic pictures of the battlefields/etc
     
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    One of the most important duties for the OBBs in 1942 was as floating gas stations and repair facilities. They most hung out at Espiritu Santu, IIRC.
     
  5. Takao

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    Fiji and New Caledonia.
     
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    The fast carriers Also missed Samar, are you saying they were also obsolete?

    Both missed Samar because Halsey thought the Japanese carriers were the greater threat.
     
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    I think Samar proves just the opposite; the fast BBs would have been welcome there.
     
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    Cool. Don't have my books with me.
     
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    The cooks on CG cutters man the guns. And yes, the CG saw plenty of action in WWII.



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    Amen.
     
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    The cooks on CG Cutters man the guns. And yes, the CG saw plenty of action in WWII.



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    As so heroically depicted in "Onion Head".
     
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    A film that rates right up there with Midway or A Bridge Too Far.

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    First time I saw it I had no idea the Coasties were in the fight. Since then... HyperWar: U.S. Coast Guard in World War II
     
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    ..so it's running in circles, kind of--they were with the CVs--if the CVs are there, the IJN's BBs are hit before the US BBs get into action--which is what happened at Sibuyan.....
    ...welcomed, but not needed
     
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    see post # 35
     
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    I would say needed.

    Of the many IJN battleships, crusiers, and destroyers, the US CVs sank or crippled only a few - Musashi, which took a lot of killing, sank, and cruiser Myoko was sent packing. The rest of the force was relatively undamaged.
    Although, the aviators claimed far more than what they did.

    Then, there is also the concern of a night action either with the Kurita force or Ozawa force where the CVs would be relatively impotent, since the US did not practice night carrier strike operations.
     
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    plain and simple, the CVs were the heavy hitters --the game changers...the power
     
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    Only so long as the sun was shining and the weather clear.
     
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    Yep. It was a dark night when the TBS rang out "This is Ching Lee in Washington and I'm comin' through!"
     

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