When would average German soldier have known war was lost?

you would need to interview at length the common Landser and Offizier plus the theater they served in. it will depend on this gents.

although deemed almost ridiculous on the Ost from by late 44 the Wehrmacht did not give up even in Berlin and the little know Ost Preußia

 

Who said that the war was lost - or who said Germany lost the war

This proclamation was recorded at an NAZI rightwing meeting in Leipzig/Germany a year ago. - some didn't get it until today

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Kruska

 

Dont think there would have been an instant where he would realised it,more of a gradual sea change beginning at the first russian winter and the failure to take moscow.
Probably like a snowball rolling down a hill getting bigger and bigger.
Stalingrad and el alamein might well have been the point of no return for some.
Normandy and the destruction of army group center and its all hands to the pump.

 

And surely by the time they find themselves fighting on the east of the Rhine, and that malignant dwarf Goebbels even publically extolling the "honor" of defending the historic western border of Germanic peoples over the radio.

By then all but the most fanatic Nazis must have realized, promised wonder weapons or no, the "die was cast". Or in Goering's words; "the jig was up." Of course Goering said that when he saw Mustangs escorting bombers over Berlin, but you know what I meant (I hope).

 

I read the story of one German officer, who knew that Germany had lost the war after a local German counterattack in Normandy was successful in his sector and his unit managed to reach the position of an abandoned Allied artillery battery, only to find artillery shells stacked in long rows four feet high, like some odd looking fence. As his orderly handed him an opened can of captured C-Rations, the officer shook his head and clucked his tongue, saying that "The entire German Army doesn't have that many artillery shells in all of Normandy and this single battery has enough shells stored here for an entire army." He knew then that the jig was up.