pampa14's Aviation Click Bait

They were not sent via submarines, but by blockade runners. German and Italian submarines did not begin running to the Far East until 1943, the Bf-109s arrived in '41 or early '42.

2nd to last photo is the Japanese one...It is not rare, but easily found on the net.

 

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Pretty sure Japan bought some kind of tech and was shipped via sub to Japan. Not the 109?
Maybe it was the plans for the 109, or the engine. ugh. Would take forever to find in my books...MrT knows.

 

I think I read it was 262 engines but don't know if that info was accurate

 

Japan received five Bf-109s in 1941(although some sources say 1942).

Plans for the Me-262 & Me-163 were sent and received via submarine. U-234 was carrying crated Me-262s, but she surrendered after Germany capitulated.

 

Woohoo, love using hand grenades while playing horseshoes.

 

I have Rene Francillon's authoritative Japanese Aircraft of the Pacific War. The Japanese certainly did NOT use the Me Bf-109, though some Allied authorities said they did at the time. Actually, the Allies were confusing the 109 with a similar-looking native Japanese design, the Kawasaki Ki-61 Tony army fighter. The two did use the same DB inline engine and looked alike from a distance, but they were otherwise quite different aircraft.

The Japanese purchased examples of many foreign aircraft before 1941, and did copy some of them for military purposes. This was particularly true of transport types. The Douglas DC 3 was copied by Showa and Nakajima as the navy L2D transport (Allied code name Tabby). The Japanese also used American-made examples and native-built copies of the Lockheed LO, the latter being built by Tachikawa for the Japanese army (Allied code name Thelma). A modified and improved LO-type was built by Kawasaki as the Ki-56 transport (code name Thalia).

Several other foreign aircraft were used in small numbers by the Japanese. Italy supplied a batch of 85 Fiat Br-20 medium bombers for use by the Japanese navy in China, and small numbers of the Heinkel-112 and Seversky 2PA-B3 fighters served with the IJN air arm. All three types had been phased out of operational use by the time of Pearl Harbor.

 

This was posted on our sister site as well. Is someone trying to drum up traffic for their own website?

 

I share with you some photos showing P-51 Mustangs on aircraft carriers. There was a naval version of this plane? To see the photos, visit the link below:


http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/02/um-p-51-mustang-navalizado.html


Cheers.

 

Never heard of a marine version. . It appears some are being transported. The ones flying or about too may be test flights or perhaps captivated then landing ashore. I think if they were actually used as carrier based planes someone would have posted it somewhere. I hope I am shown to be wrong. Great photos, thanks.

gaines

 

Yeah a number seam to be transporting...although little anchoring is shown...one or two may have been emergency landing, ( and subsequent take-off) from a carrier...would have believed that more of the Pacific theatre though...they all seem late model Ds with the tail conversions...so may even be post war for some pics...
And without folding wings, it's unlikely to be a navalised version...

 

At least one carrier is a CVE so they are being transported. The main issue with the Mustang is no folding wings so you couldn't store as many. The Corsair and the Hellcat were the main carrier based planes

 

There was a navalized Version of the P-51D that was tested aboard A USN carrier.

You can see the catapult hook between the landing gear and the tailhook just abaft the tail wheel.

Landing


Both photos & several others and a good write up on the naval mustang can be found here:
http://www.mustang.gaetanmarie.com/articles/naval/naval.htm

The US Navy had earlier received a ex-RAF Mustang MkI that had been taken over by the USAAF, but IIRC, it was never outfitted for carrier take-offs and landings.

 

I share with you some pictures showing a flying P-61 with a missile under the fuselage. Does anyone know what kind of missile is this and was used operationally? The link also contains photographs of the plane now testing some kind of jet engine. Photos can be viewed by visiting the link below:


http://aviacaoemfloripa.blogspot.com.br/2011/02/p-61-black-widow-em-testes-especiais.html


Best Regards.

 

The bottom is a 'Gorgon Missile'...the top isn't a missile but a transonic tester...dropped until it reaches the desired speed and data collected...

 

The first picture is a "RATO" or "JATO" pod Rocket or Jet Assisted Take Off. It was designed to allow aircraft to use shorter runways or especially heavy aircraft to get in to the sir more quickly using less onboard fuel.

C-130's are the only planes I have seen them on recently, "Fat Albert" of the Blue Angles uses them.

 

Thought so too...but wasnt sure...ive seen them on C130s and something smaller...A Carabou?

 

Most of the Cargo piston pounders had them. I have seen A-20's and A/B-26's with them. I think the smallest plane equipped with RATO was the F-86.

B-36 and B-47 were also common users; even the B-29 / B-50 used them I am sure, depending on the configuration; may not have been too popular on the KC platforms.

 

C'mon Pampa, now you are just getting lazy and recycling old material. For those that have not noticed his widow webpage is from 2011, and he linked to it back in 2014 - here and on many other forums
http://www.ww2f.com/topic/52746-p-61-black-widow-ramjet-tests/
Alzheimer's must be catching up with him, because he knew exactly what the photos were of back then.



FYI, Black Widow 42-39754 is testing a airfoil ramjet in 1947, and not a JATO or RATO bottle.

 

No it's not

 

Is.

http://grin.hq.nasa.gov/ABSTRACTS/GPN-2000-000378.html