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British Imperial Navy and Royal Canadian Navy Conspiracy of "Operation Shark Bait And Sink!"

Discussion in 'German U-Boats' started by Eric Brian Brewster, Jun 1, 2017.

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Did the Royal Canadian Navy Lie to it's people?

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  1. Eric Brian Brewster

    Eric Brian Brewster New Member

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    The British and Canadian Navies in WW2 engaged in an Conspiracy as I have named.....the brainchild of Commander Ian Fleming. He lied to Royal Canadian Navy ships of the HMCS Outremont and the HMCS New Waterford about going to Hollywood and doing a documentary movie about the capturing of Uboat 1006, My father Leander Wilsion Brewster was a good friend of Westley Allan Spinks whom was the grandfather of Don Spinks whom lives in Ontario and sent me these pictures, I think they show a conspiracy of what Ian Fleming did to those 2 ships. It was not the HMCS Annan that captured the Uboat 1006 but the HMCS New Waterford and the HMCS Outremont that my father served on in WW2, historians mistake the pictures of The West Arm Of Halifax for The Thames River near London, England, my father before he died in 2003 told me about this conspiracy. The Uboat 1006 and 2 other Uboats were captured and taken to Halifax Harbour, NS, Canada and researched at the Bedford Oceanic Institute between 1942 and 1944, the Uboat 1006 was sunk off of the Faroes Island in Iceland in 1944. About 300 German Submarine Crews were imprisoned in the Halifax Citadel for 3-4 years before being transfered to Alberta Canada and repatrioted in 1945......that is my story and it is the truth what my father told me and what Don Spinks wants investigated because Ian Fleming shuttled back and forth between Halifax, NS, Washington DC and Britain to keep this conspiracy going for 4 years and swearing men on the RCN ships to secracy for along time, someone should get at the secret files in the Imperial War Museum in Britain or force them to open those files up, I am asking for help, this is my story and whom here wants to help me?
     

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    Pretty tall sea story I must say.

    Now, given that you have written elsewhere
    First, if a U-Boat was captured in the winter of 1943, it certainly was not U-1006. U-1006 was not launched until November 17, 1943, she was commissioned on January 11, 1944, and did not depart on her first war patrol until September 1, 1944. This makes a November, 1943, capture of U-1006 impossible.

    Also, given that the HMCS New Waterford was not commissioned until January 21, 1944, would make a participation in November, 1943, highly unlikely.


    Could you post a higher resolution photo of the U-boat in Halifax harbor/river, as it looks like U-190 which was tested and participated in ASW training in that area until she was sunk in "SINKEX" on July 24, 1947.
     
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  3. Eric Brian Brewster

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    Actually it was in November 1942 going on to about 1944, they discovered the newly Commissioned Uboat 1006 off of Norway she had experienced First Officers but an unexperienced crew. This frame shows the Uboat 1006 in Halifax Harbor, the orginal picture that Don Spinks had sent me when I emailed to him; Takao I sincerely want to thank you for your reply. I would love to force the Department of Defense and the Royal Canadian Navy to have the Imperial War Museum to open up their secret files, I have contacted the IWM and they have already gone dumb on opening up their secret file stash telling me "No we don't have any secret files here." I don't believe them, it would take a British Government Order to have those files opened since some of the British Royal Imperial Navy Allies still use that coding. I also send you an Enigma Code Machine 2 that had 5 rotors that was on the updated submarines in the German Navy and on their advanced battleships and destroyers.
     

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    My father told me he was on the Outremont in between 42-44 and the action on Uboat 1006 took place in the 2nd 2 weeks of November of 1942 of Ops Shark BaitnHook, Commander Ian Fleming shuttled back and fourth between Washington DC, Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada and Britain from 42 to 44 when shortly after the Uboat 1006 was sunk by the HMCS Annan for National Security Reasons as well as Allied Secret Reasons. All documents were tampered with an altered by both the Royal Canadian Navy and the Royal Imperial British Navy to coverup the whole incident. This included my father's war record, that is why Don Spinks and I are seeking answers. The Enigma Code Machine that is painted red is the one that was sent to Calgary, Alberta Canada as was the crew of the Uboat 1006 because their usefulness in Halifax, Nova Scotia was over; their leaked letters to their families in Germany now was a danger to Commander Ian Fleming and he had to enact secracy over the Royal Canadian Navy.

    When the foolish old drunkard Captain of the HMCS Outremont rammed it into it's birthing pier at Halifax Harbor, then Commander Ian Fleming considered this a dangerious security risk having my father, a friend of his Westley Allan Spinks and Lloyd Meredith contact the Command Officers of the Outremont asking them to replace the captain and take over the command of the HMCS Outremont. THIS IS WHAT MY FATHER TOLD ME and then after the incident my father and both crews were sworn to secracy for 70 years......so does this seem NORMAL TO YOU?!
     
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    THE HISTORIAN, I proved with my evidence that Uboat 1006 was around at November 1942, what evidence do you have that confirms that it was not?! I can confirm that Uboat 1006 was in Halifax Harbor by the Summer of 1943 by comparison of modern photographs with that 2 framed picture, the shoreline has not changed at the West Arm Of Halifax even if buildings have changed somewhat. The CREWS OF THE Outremont and New Waterford were on Convoy Duty between 1941-45. DOCUMENTATION was altered to coverup secrets.
     
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    Sorry, no you have not. You posted two completely indecipherable, extremely low resolution photos of a U-Boat. No date is visible. No markings are visible. These confirm that U1006 was in Halifax because _____?
     
  8. Eric Brian Brewster

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    You want to contact an Don Spinks that SENT ME THAT LOW RESOLUTION Photo and duke it out with him!? I have his telephone number if you want it. He will tell you EXACTLY THE SAME STORY I AM TELLING YOU, since his GRANDFATHER AND MY FATHER were friends and on the HMCS Outremont at the time of the incident......HAVE YOU ACTUALLY TALKED to any of the surviving families of the HMCS New Waterford to get the other side of the story, I HAVE ON THE INTERNET, they are really pissed off with the memories of their parents being largely ignored and trampled by the RCN and British Royal Imperial Navy's handling of men being sworn to secracy for 70yrs, documents being FALISFIED and people unable to get classified documentation BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT MANIPULATION to protect ASSHOLES THAT ARE ALLIES today using the same Enigma Codes that were used in WW2. My father even knew of men like Commander Ian Fleming carrying silenced revolvers at the time of the Uboat 1006 incident.....I wonder......for an ordinary RCN Recruit between 1940 to 1945 how does one like my late Father Leander Wilson Brewster, come into knowledge how and whom carried an silenced pistol!!!?? Apparently Commander Ian Fleming carried one on his person and ACCORDING TO MY FATHER , Fleming would have killed my father if my father did not carry out Flemings Orders to the letter......does this sound like James Bond to you??!!
     
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    Look here, my friend. Watch your tone. You come onto a public forum, post a rather unbelievable claim, and then jump down the throat of anyone who doubts it. The fact remains that you've posted no concrete evidence of any of what you're claiming occurred.

    Sure. Send it to me. There are several naval experts on this forum (Takao and lwd to name 2 of them) who I'm sure would be happy to look into this with an in-person interview.

    See comment above.

    Nope, I haven't heard of any of this until reading your incredulous claims on this forum.

    If they've been sworn to secrecy for 70 years, why are they talking about it now on the internet?

    You're saying that national intelligence organizations are using the Enigma machine today?

    You can't silence a revolver, with the only notworthy exception being a Soviet Nagant 1895 -- which would be a most unusual sidearm for someone outside of the Soviet Union to be carrying.

    Silenced pistols were standard issue for some personnel. This was not classified. Rumors abound.

    Could be -- James Bond is a fictional work that was created by a man with a fantastic imagination.
     
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    I just gave it to you.
    However, you can also look this one up-
    "U1006 Type VII C-41
    Built by Blohm und Voss, Hamburg
    Keel laid 30.1.43
    Launched 17.11.43
    Commissioned 11.1.44
    Feldpost #M54 173
    Sunk 16.10.44 SW of the Faeroes (60 59'N 04 49'W)
    Served with :
    31 U-Flotille, Hamburg Jan-Aug. 1944
    11U-boat Flotille Bergen Sept 1944-16.10.44.
    (Wynn, Kenneth: U-Boat Operations of the Second World War. Vol.2; Career histories U511-UIT25. p214.
    (Dubai. The Caxton Publishing Group.2003)
    On what are you basing the claim that records were "falsified", since that must also include the above records from the firm which built the sub?
     
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    That is quite a bit of documentation - either shouted or not - to cover up.

    U-1006 was a Typ-VIIC/41 boat, which were first ordered on 14 October 1941 (U-292), from nine different builders: Bremer Vulkan-Vegesacker Werft, Flender Werke Lübeck, F. Schichau Danzig, Neptun Werft Rostock, Blohm u. Voss Hamburg, F. Krupp Germaniaweft Kiel, Nordseewerke Emden, Danziger Werft Danzig, and Flensburger Schiffsbau Flensburg. All told they built 90 Typ-VIIC/41 boats (another 135 were cancelled in September-November 1943), with the first (U-292) laid down at Bremer Vulkan-Vegesacker Werft as work order 57. The last (U-1025) was commissioned on 12 April 1945, but then was condemned and stricken on 30 April due to defective batteries and was scuttled on 5 May at Flensburg.

    U-1006 itself was laid down 30 January 1943 at Blohm u. Voss as work order 206. She was launched on 17 November 1943 and commissioned on 11 January 1944 under Oberleutnant Horst Voigt as part of the 31. U-Boote Flotille for training in the Baltic. She completed her training on 1 September 1944 and was assigned to the 11. U-Boote Flotille. On 9 October 1944 she set out of Bergen on her first war patrol and was sunk on 16 October 1944 SE of the Faroe Islands by HMCS Annan using depth charges and gunfire in two engagements.

    The documentation that would need to be altered would be all of the records of the Kriegsmarine related to the contracts, construction, and war patrols of U-1006. Among other things that would need to be changed would be the numbering of all of the U-Boote in order to get the sequence of U-1006 correct. Also, all the records of the nine shipyards would need to be altered, especially those of Blohm und Voss, which is complicated by the simple fact those records were also collected and held by the United States Strategic Bombing Survey, so were not in the hands of James Bond...sorry Ian Fleming, and thus could not be "altered" by him or his minions...even if they did wave "silenced revolvers" about. Then of course we need to "alter" the records of HMCS Annan and the 6th Escort Group (typically four to six destroyers/destroyer escorts/frigates and four to six corvettes) it was part of. Along with, of course, the memories of the thousand or so officers and crew of the escorts and the 44 German crew rescued for the water.

    Plus, now you also must "alter" the records of the actual U-190 and its postwar fate, which is the subject of the photos posted. That includes all its construction and service records, as well as the records and memories of the crews of HMCS Nootka and New Liskeard, along with the Firefly and Seafire aircraft and crews that participated in her sinking.

    And so on...simple.
     
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    Just noticed this-

    So you claim this happened in November 1942, with your father serving on a ship which hadn't even been built yet?
    HMCS OUTREMONT K322 / 310 - For Posterity's Sake
     
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    James Bond...damn, did it again - IAN FLEMING altered the records with his silenced revolver in order to hide from the builders and crew that they were sailing on a vessel a year before it was commissioned. Or something. :rolleyes:

    Can we just cut to the chase and call this bat$hit crazy?

    I guess that after the U.S. Congress' vote on the tax scam I've lost my tolerance for off the wall fantasy substituting for reality. If you've gone off your meds and can only rant about your inability to accept reality and simple facts then just drink the damned Koolaid, take the red pill, and crawl back into bed with your tinfoil hat.
     
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    Yeah, nice photos but what's your point?
     
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    I really really hate beating my head against a wall if disbelief from Semi Pro Historians whom say they want to investigate things but are so very closed minded that Commander Ian Fleming and the Royal Canadian Navy as well as the Royal Imperial British Navy would do a monumental task as silencing perhaps 400 crewmembers of 2 ships and other people and then falsify records as to give an "official view" as to how the Enigma Code Machines ended up in Allan Turing's hands......is simply explained.....THERE WAS A WAR ON secrets had to be kept and lies had to be told so hense the conspiracy......BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
     
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    Funny you being a HISTORIAN and everything, that the truth bites you in the ass and you don't want to do an investigation? Seems pretty selfish on your part eh?! That is all my cards on the table, showing conclusively that this is the West Arm Of Halifax Harbor......now and in WW2......so where were the photos 2 framed Submarines taken if not in Halifax Harbor, the only way of proving where the photos were taken is if you historians get off your fat asses and demand that The Imperial War Museum declassify it's secret files showing exactly the truth once and for all how Allan Turing got 3-5 rotor Enigma Code Machines from the Royal Canadian Navy!

    I a few years ago sent the same photos to Deep Sea Diving org TV series also, they accepted what I told them and how I got the photos from my friend Don Spinks, after reviewing the photos Deep Sea Diving org in Scotland said in their emails to me that they certainly would want to do an investigation in Faroes Iceland to see if they could locate Uboat 1006.
     
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    I AM NOT A HISTORIAN, but I am a damn good Genealogist. You people tell me your SEMI PRO HISTORIANS, you go to the Imperial War Museum in London, England UK and ask them to open up their secret war records....infact copy those pictures I just submitted and take them there! It is time that such secrets were declassified and the conspiracy ended.
     
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    Oh, the truth? Like the simple facts neither U-1006 or HMCS Outremont were actually around when you say this incident occurred?
    Go lie in a corner with some tinfoil over your head.
     
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    Not sure why you seem to think the IWM records are "secret"-
    Collections
     

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