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Did Germany have power to defeat XXX Allied Nation one on one?

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  1. DangerousBob

    DangerousBob New Member

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    My understanding is that Germany fielded more technology advanced equipment and tactics. That gave them the edge, even if only for a very short window of time, and made up for the difference in industrial capacity. (France on paper was stronger than Germany, but was fielding outdated equipment and tactics more fit for WW1). Really by the time the United States got involved that edge for Germany was mostly gone. But still it was the quality of their material that allowed them to carry the war like they did. Most conflicts had hugely skewed casualty ratios in Germanys favor - especially on the Eastern front. As we know today Quality will normally prevail over Quantity. However by 43/44 the allies had Quality and Quantity.

    I would think that Germanys industrial out-put would have sky-rocketed more so then it did. I mean they had almost every factory in Europe.

    I don't think Germany ever had any realistic goal of putting boots on the ground on the mainland United States. They knew they would have to sue for favorable terms by winning defensively. Any kind of offense against the United States would have to come in a later decade.
     
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    LJAd Well-Known Member

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    Compared to the US,Germany was nothing :the whole German strategy was to finish the war with Britain,before the US would intervene .The Germans were hypnotized by the US .
     
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    What measure of industrialized are you using? Cars per capita it's the US by a significant margin, Percentages or relative acres of farms worked by power equipment US again, Telephones per capita US. Percentage of population working in Industry I'm pretty sure that goes to the US as well.

    While Germany had more advanced tech in some areas it was less advanced in other. Some of the areas where they were roughly equal Germany simply fielded equipment that wasn't ready for prime time yet while the US took a bit more time to get it right. The US was also a bit ahead in putting things into mass production. If you look at the V-1 for example I believe it was less than a year after the firs tone was launched that the US was ready to outproduce Germany with a significantly improved version.
    German doctrilne at the beginning of the war was signficantly more advanced but that edge was gone by 44. Some in the US were pushing for supperior doctrine as well. If the war holds off a a couple of years that edge may be gone as well.
     
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    Germany vs ALL-

    This is merely a theory, but if Hitler had allowed the start of Jet Fighter production in mid to late 1943 (assuming he gave the Jet program more support), Germany could have held on to their air superiority in Europe until cheaper high-altitude interceptors could be introduced. Thusly, Germany maintains it's factories in Europe, and WWII continues until either the Germans run out of oil, or the A-Bomb is dropped on Berlin.
     
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    Not likely. The Me-262 and inparticular it's engines weren't ready for mass production / operational use when it was put into mass production. Starting earlier isn't going to help that. The Me-262 wasn't exactly the ideal plane for new pilots in any case.
     
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    The problem was not so much the engine per se, but the lack of certain materials needed. The Research team was allocated too little of these scarce metals, which delayed the development of the engine. However, even if they had been given adequate quantities for research purposes, they'd still not had enough to produce the engines in the qualities needed; therefore, the less than stellar service life and reduced performance issues would've remained, regardless of how soon the original research was completed.

    It is difficult to understand the Nazi fascination with the tactical bomber, when the obvious need was for a large number of good fighter/interceptor pilots and fighter aircraft. ( By the time this was accepted, it was too late by far. Furthermore, the LW pilot training system was brutally mismanaged IMO. Herman wasn't an Allied agent, but if he had been, he couldn't have done a better job. Charming, intelligent, pompous, vile, egotistical, vicious, drug-abuser. Could anyone else lose the Battle of Britain, and retain their standing? And then fail to supply the 6th Army as promised (a blatant lie, which HItler must surely have seen)? These are failings that are beyond Epic on the global scale. Our old Pal Saddam would've had the guy fall into a very deep ditch with a few life inhibiting holes decorating his corpulence for assistance.
     
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    I thought the US Navy was not really that great before ww2.
     
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    That really is down to an issue of semantics. The engine required considerably more design refinement or materials that the Germans didn't have in sufficient quantities. It there fore was not ready for mass production and operational use. If they had the materials I believe that it still would have at least benefited from additional engineering if not required it.
     

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