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    Like having read, China has always considered that Taiwan is part of China. Compared to Britain 1940 the Germans had months to create the invasion force. The Chinese have been creating military bases for years now on small islands and keep on doing it, and lie to the world nothing is happening. Personally I don' t get it what they achieve but it seems they have a plan to rule the Sea area and perhaps create bases to use for military action in case?? However I see it a bit aggressive movement and perhaps we should stop that " island hopping ".
     
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    The West makes friends…and friends share their territory…Countries like China have few friends, so need to expand with these islands…it’s about forward bases being able to take shipping and re-supply and aircraft…they do it because they have to.
     
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    Notice the Chinese claim line and Taiwan.....

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    South China Sea: What's China's plan for its 'Great Wall of Sand'?

    Listen to the Chinese answer to the planes coming close to these "fortress" islands.....nice....

    Unfortunately the only answer to the Chinese invasion policy might be this:

    Most recently, China closed off a swathe of sea space to conduct naval exercises in the waters surrounding the Paracel Islands. The US angrily said this violated Chinese commitments to avoid activities exacerbating disputes.

    Meanwhile, the US Navy deployed not one but two aircraft carrier strike groups - the USS Nimitz and USS Ronald Reagan - for joint operations in the region.

    In addition to the US Navy fighters conducting carrier operations and the P8-Poseidon Maritime Patrol Aircraft criss-crossing the sea, the US Air Force sent a B-52 strategic bomber for good measure.

    China's state media reacted with predictable vitriol.

    The recent US Navy exercises in the South China Sea were aimed at demonstrating US resolve to protect the "freedom of the seas": for the US Navy to operate in and ultimately protect the seaspace across these international waters.

    The US could very rapidly reduce China's new Nansha district to concrete and coral rubble - but this would entail a war for which neither the US nor China has an appetite.
     
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    Thanks for that. I wonder if the US should do what Russia and China do on our joint exercises…deploy a purpose built naval spy ship bristling with antennae and data collecting devices and sit a couple of feet out from the line…just to piss them off.
     
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    Are the Chinese testing us?

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    March 2021

    South China Sea dispute: Huge Chinese 'fishing fleet' alarms Philippines

    The Philippines has called on China to withdraw more than 200 ships it accuses of encroaching upon its territorial waters in the South China Sea.

    The Philippines says the fishing boats do not appear to be fishing and are crewed by China's maritime militia.

    Five years ago an international court rejected Chinese claims of sovereignty over 90% of the water mass.

    Beijing continues to claim an area known as the "nine-dash line" and has backed its claim with island-building and patrols, expanding its military presence while maintaining that its intentions are peaceful.

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    With Swarms of Ships, Beijing Tightens Its Grip on South China Sea

    A satellite photo of Whitsun Reef on March 23. At one point in March, 220 Chinese ships were reported to be anchored around the reef.Credit...Maxar Technologies
     
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    https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p09zf8v2/the-invisible-soviet-town-that-suddenly-appeared-in-poland

    At the end of the Cold War, the town of Borne Sulinowo suddenly appeared on the map in northeastern Poland.

    One of the most secretive and important Soviet military bases in the Eastern bloc, it was outside of Polish control during the Cold War. Officially, it did not exist. First established by the Nazis, then taken over by the Soviets and rumoured to have hidden nuclear warheads, now Borne Sulinowo is home to over 5,000 people.
     
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    First depiction of zombies in war movies was the 1918 French film J'accuse. The parts were played by real French soldiers, many of whom were dead by the time the film got released-
    J’Accuse (1919)
     
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    Stalin blamed for everything bad in 1956.

    "On the Cult of Personality and Its Consequences" (Russian: «О культе личности и его последствиях», «O kul'te lichnosti i yego posledstviyakh»), popularly known as the "Secret Speech" (Russian: секретный доклад, sekretnïy doklad), was a report by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, made to the 20th Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union on 25 February 1956. Khrushchev's speech was sharply critical of the rule of the deceased General Secretary and Premier Joseph Stalin, particularly with respect to the purges which had especially marked the last years of the 1930s. Khrushchev charged Stalin with having fostered a leadership cult of personality despite ostensibly maintaining support for the ideals of communism. The speech was leaked to the West by the Israeli intelligence agency Shin Bet, which received it from the Polish-Jewish journalist Wiktor Grajewski.

    The speech was shocking in its day. There are reports that the audience reacted with applause and laughter at several points.[1] There are also reports that some of those present suffered heart attacks and others later committed suicide, due to shock at the revelations of Stalin's use of terror.[2] The ensuing confusion among many Soviet citizens, bred on the panegyrics and permanent praise of the "genius" of Stalin, was especially apparent in Georgia, Stalin's homeland, where the days of protests and rioting ended with the Soviet army crackdown on 9 March 1956.[3] In the West, the speech politically devastated the organised left; the Communist Party USA alone lost more than 30,000 members within weeks of its publication.

    The official Russian text was not openly published until 1989, during the glasnost campaign.

    On the Cult of Personality and Its Consequences - Wikipedia
     
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    The Northern Sea Route goes for 5600km from the Kara Sea to the Bering Strait, connecting Western Russia to the Far Eastern territories. In the 1930s, the USSR started building hundreds of lighthouses along this Arctic route. With no keepers, and no other form of electricity available they would run on nuclear energy.

    The nuclear lighthouses built by the Soviets in the Arctic - BBC Reel
     
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    The inventive 'dazzle' strategy used to disguise WW1 ships - BBC Reel

    When ships were attacked by submarines during World War One, a British artist proposed an idea for disguising them. Instead of attempting pure invisibility, Norman Wilkinson suggested an optic illusion. This 'dazzle' strategy protected ships at sea, and gave artists a chance for their avant-garde visual language to serve a 'practical, useful purpose within the war'.
     
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    Elafonisi (Greek: Ελαφονήσι [elafoˈnisi] "deer island") is an island located close to the southwestern corner of the Mediterranean island of Crete, of which it is administratively a part, in the regional unit of Chania. When the weather is fine it is possible to walk to the island through the shallow water. The island is a protected nature reserve. It is known for its pink sand beaches, created by tidal and wave-induced deposits of pigmented microorganisms living in a symbiotic relationship with native seaweed.

    Greek War of Independence

    At the highest point on the island there is a plaque that commemorates a tragic event. On Easter Sunday of 18 April 1824 several hundred Greeks, mostly women and children, were killed on Elafonisi by Ottoman soldiers. To avoid advancing Turkish Ottoman troops, forty armed men had taken refuge on the island with women, children and old folk where they were waiting for a ship to take them to the Ionian Islands. The Ottoman soldiers had decided to camp on the beach opposite the island. One of their horses walked along the shallow water to the island and the people hiding on the island were discovered. According to several sources there were between 640 and 850 people in total, most of whom were killed and the remaining survivors were sold into slavery in Egypt.

    Elafonisi - Wikipedia

    Plaque of massacre of houndreds greeks by turks in 1824 on Elafonissi islet near southeast tip of greek island of Crete Stock Photo - Alamy
     
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    Saw a part of French anti-semitism in a document a couple of days ago.....

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...c07ee2-e663-11e7-927a-e72eac1e73b6_story.html

    Yet Céline, who died in 1961, was also something else: an avowed and obsessive anti-Semite. He cheered as Adolf Hitler rose to power in Germany, and in the years after the Nazi leader cemented control in 1933, Céline published three book-length pamphlets that rank among the most virulently anti-Jewish texts in any language. Even the Nazis found them a touch too lurid: Céline had "correct racial notions," one propaganda official remarked, but his "savage, filthy slang" was beyond the pale.

    Louis-Ferdinand Céline - Wikipedia
     
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    1914: Tear gas

    The most frequently used chemicals during World War I were tear-inducing irritants rather than fatal or disabling poisons. During World War I, the French army was the first to employ tear gas, using 26 mm grenades filled with ethyl bromoacetate in August 1914. The small quantities of gas delivered, roughly 19 cm3 (1.2 cu in) per cartridge, were not even detected by the Germans. The stocks were rapidly consumed and by November a new order was placed by the French military. As bromine was scarce among the Entente allies, the active ingredient was changed to chloroacetone.

    In October 1914, German troops fired fragmentation shells filled with a chemical irritant against British positions at Neuve Chapelle; the concentration achieved was so small that it too was barely noticed.[8] None of the combatants considered the use of tear gas to be in conflict with the Hague Treaty of 1899, which specifically prohibited the launching of projectiles containing asphyxiating or poisonous gas.

    Chemical weapons in World War I - Wikipedia
     
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    "The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances refers to three identical political agreements signed at the OSCE conference in Budapest, Hungary on 5 December 1994 to provide security assurances by its signatories relating to the accession of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. The memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear powers: the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom, and the United States. China andFrance gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.
    The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial sovereign integrity or political independence of Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.
    As a result, between 1994 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons. Until then, Ukraine had the world's third-largest nuclear weapons stockpile of which Ukraine had physical, but not operational, control. Russia alone controlled the codes needed to operate the nuclear weapons via Russian-controlled electronic Permissive Action Links and the Russian command and control system.
    In 2009, Russia and the United States released a joint statement that the memorandum's security assurances would still be respected after the expiration of the START Treaty.
    After the annexation fo the Crimea by Russia in 2014, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the UK and US stated that Russian involvement was a breach of its Budapest Memorandum obligations to Ukraine which had been transmitted to the United Nations under the signature of Sergei Levrov and others, and in violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity. On 4 March 2014, the Russian president Vladimir Putin replied to a question on the violation of the Budapest Memorandum, describing the current Ukrainian situation as a revolution: "a new state arises, but with this state and in respect to this state, we have not signed any obligatory documents." Russia stated that it had never been under obligation to "force any part of Ukraine's civilian population to stay in Ukraine against its will." Russia tried to suggest that the US was in violation of the Budapest Memorandum and described the Euromaidan as a US-instigated coup."
    Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances - Wikipedia
     
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    This is reminiscent of Hitler's excuse for the invasion of Czechoslovakia, whose integrity he had guaranteed at Munich. When Slovakia, with Nazi connivance, declared itself independent, Hitler claimed that the situation had changed and that the Czecho-Slovak state he had agreed to respect no longer existed.
     
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    I liked this morning hearing the official comment from the US president that any russian bomb or missile falling on Nato soil will face a full force attack by Nato. No comment by Putin so far. The latest western Ukraine bombing by russians fell some 20 kilometers from Poland. Putin needs to have a couple of Ali jabs to face and rib cage. And a kick in the balls. The more russian soldiers die the less Putin talks. Not a simple takeover, is it. And even if Russia made a peace pact they face the collapse of their economy for tens of years. Remember the Caucescus mr Putin. Say hello to them in hell.
     
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    I think the Russian military is getting frustrated...The people aren't on board either...

    Lets not forget the fate of Stalin...Theres form there...
     
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