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Is there hope for this generation??

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  1. macrusk

    macrusk Proud Daughter of a Canadian WWII Veteran

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    I agree. I'm a stepmother. I didn't think I would have kids, but it didn't stop me from believing that what I did and what I said would have an influence on the young people I met, grew to love as children of my brothers or friends, or with whom I would work. I believe the way we treat young people in the store and on the street affects them in ways we don't realize. I have been so fortunate to know young people who have turned out well, some who are now parents raising children. Some of them had shaky moments but they came through.

    Whether it was my stepchildren or a child I meet on the street - I expect respect to be given to me and I extend that basic behaviour to them. I've rarely been disappointed, and its interesting how a child who is shown how to have self-respect, learns to have self-respect.

    The children who fail in any generation are the result of the cumulative actions and behaviours of every adult they encounter - not just their parents, not just the media, and not just the "system."

    I have great step-kids who in their early twenties, live with us. They have healthy relationships with their mother and step-father who live in the States, and they interact with people of all ages in a positive manner. I had basic rules for them in my home: 1) no one was allowed to hit anyone in anger, with me as the person who called a halt on roughhousing before anyone was injured, or felt weak and therefore tempted to use real violence; 2) no one ever called anyone stupid; 3) If I received their love it would be the icing, but our relationship would be built on respect unless someone lost that right and had to re-earn it. Fortunately, love and laughter are the cornerstone of our relationship - although we have't quite got our head around how tonight it was my husband and I getting heck for not living up to the new diet/menu plan our daughter implemented and cooked!

    Yes - the next generation has hope for it. It is up to us all to help them have the moral judgement to utilize and understand the masses of information that they have available to them. They have the potential and tools to make it an amazing world.
     
  2. T. A. Gardner

    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

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    I think this would be really hard to tell. The reason is that the world is undergoing another technological revolution of equal magnitude to those that went before it. The last technological revolution was Industrial.

    The Industrial Revolution brought with it the upheavel of social and political structures overturning the previous agriarian based societies with their small oligarical or theological government systems. This revolution allowed the development of a large middle class and would lead to social democracies and capitalism as the dominant political and economic systems.

    Prior to that was the Reinassance. This revolution led to the basics of science and the opening of fields of discovery that set the basis for the Industrial Revolution that followed. It saw a replacement of the feudal monarchy with merchantilism and the rise of oligarcharies.

    Today we are at the beginning of the Electronics Revolution. This revolution appears to be completely overturning the previous means of producing, controlling and, diseminating information. Already we are seeing the decline in the printed word. Newspapers are becoming extinct. Magazines look like they will follow. Eventually I would predict books go the same way.
    The previous Industrial Revolution need for mass manpower to produce goods is likewise disappearing. Factories are becoming virtually, if not already, automated with computers running the machines with just human oversight. Computers and such have also eliminated the mass office bureaucracies and need for skyscraper-like buildings to house these workers. Today a single clerk can produce the work that it took a small army of clerks in 1950.

    Anyway, the generation now growing up is going to have to deal with this reality. They will have to adapt in ways those of us who grew up at the end of the Industrial Revolution didn't have to. I don't expect it will be an easy transition and I have no idea really what the new social and political paradyne might be. One thing is certain, like it or not, it is very likely that the systems of the Industrial Revolution will be overturned with new ones and that capitalism, socialism and, possibly even democracy will be replaced by something completely different.
    This and the generations to come definitely face some serious challenges even if they don't recognize it right now.
     
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    What kind of white collar occupations do you see becoming redundant in twenty or thirty years, TA?
     
  5. jemimas_special2

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    John,

    Thank you for the feedback. The above statement is very true... without order, without guidance, our children face a cold dark world. The Greatest Generation will always have a special place in my heart, but more important is the desire to instill the values with everyone I meet, not just children and young adults. I feel everyone needs to be reminded of faith, dedication, hard work, respect, and courage... just to name a few. I came across this quote that speaks life... tell me what you think.

    "Be the change you want to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi

    My view is skewed from day to day, but my faith remains hopeful. Why? because my desire to follow the above statement is the goal. There is hope my friend, and I contest to you today that my two young children will know what the Greatest Generation has done for this country, and the world!

    sincerely,

    Nav
     
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  6. C.Evans

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    Oh CRAP!!!!!!, UGH, that makes me feel dirty (Ptui = the sound of spitting) oooogggghhh (the sound of violently shivering all over)

    For that -- i'd give everyone neg rep points :lol: :lol:
     
  7. TA152

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    If you guys still had all the hormones you had during your 15-19 years, you would still be acting crazy too. :eek:
     
  8. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    What? You mean we lose em? When? Why didnt anyone tell me that....I wont sleep now...
     
  9. blacksnake

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    Ike, you are the #1 Drill Sgt. Couldn't agree more. :salute: After all, just what or who do they have to aspire to? My local youth "squad" have little in the way of parental guidance. To them adults either aren't there, drunk, stoned or knocking seven shades out of them. So, what do they do? Assume ALL adults are that way and rely on their peers instead.

    But look closer....NO, closer than that....They DO have the qualities that my generation assume are lacking. RESPECT, but only for each other because adults let them down. LOYALTY, again to each other. ABILITY, to survive a society they deem as being against them. BRAVERY, I have seen with my own eyes 2 lads and a girl, the oldest being 13 and the tallest 5' f***all stand their ground against 6 grown men, they didn't back down, at that age I would have ran a mile.

    The youth of today have what it takes people. But they live in a "It's not my problem" society. All it needs is what WE all had, what my kids have and what the Sarge is trying to give..GUIDANCE...
    Why should we take responsibility for another parents short comings? Because today's youth are tomorrows leaders. It's our future as well.

    Anyway... Gotta go, Cross Of Iron just started on ITV4. :rolleyes:
     
  10. mikebatzel

    mikebatzel Dreadnaught

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    I have been pondering this question. Is there hope for this generation, in fact my generation. Then there is only one possible answer to this question. Yes, there is hope. We are still young, and trying to understand the world. It will still be 15-20 years before we start to actually run things. Alot of room for us to still improve. We will do some stupid things, including myself, but we are still learning. How much did previous generation really know about the world at our age. We, as the next generation have no option but to succed. I find it difficult to soley blame the parents for the shortcomings of their children. I have seen first hand the same parenting for seperate children, with one taking on responsibility at a younger age, and the other child go the route of welfare and not caring. It would be more ignorance towards that one childs part, as opposed to bad parenting. Not in all cases but in many. We are the future! We see the things going on in the world today, and asspire for a better tomorrow. We do not want to inherate the mistakes of the past and pass them on to the future. We will fix things, and make the world a better place, just as our fathers before us, and their fathers before them. You wait and see. We can and will step up.
     
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    I would expect jobs in manufacturing to continue to decline in number as production becomes automated. The same thing in the service industry.

    Some other areas likely to decline are:

    Semi-professionals in many fields like say physician's assistants. This will be due to the rise of intelligent interactive systems that can diagonse most problems without human intervention. Cars are like this today. Plug in the readout device and the car tells you what is wrong with it.

    Professional journalists, reporters, etc. This market will be replaced by a less formal system much like you are seeing with blogs, twitter, message boards, etc.

    Where the rise will likely come is in the semi-pro, amateur and, professional fields were anyone can take on a "hobby" or second job doing something they enjoy immensely. There are already people who have built their own super computers, do DNA research in their kitchen etc. As this sort of person can network with others anywhere on the planet more and more effectively watch for the decline in dedicated professionals versus these looser non-professionals to rise.
    It won't be that the professionals will end, it is simply that they will no longer be the only and in some cases primary means of advancing research in a field. Wikipedia is a perfect example of this sort of thing.
     
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    "Plug in the readout device and the car tells you what is wrong with it."

    How painful will that be for humans when they visit Doctor Automatic Diagnosis?
     
  13. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    It works though....Rather than go private...over here we have the choice of paying for medical care if we wish..its not all National Health related...the private sector is big too...But thinking of saving a few pennies....Had this done....the initial cost was about 80 of your dollars...I need a new spark plug, my fan belt will need replacing in 3 months time and my brake pads could do with changing on my next visit....The car though was fine...I am though also left with a bruise where the electodes were attached.
     
  14. Erich

    Erich Alte Hase

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    in a word............No
     
  15. Richard

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    Here you go Carl...

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  16. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    The gentleman needs a bucket , it must be the Texan all you can eat diet:D
     
  17. rhs

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    This question is probably as old as the Human Race but somehow we are still here despite the doubts. Love 'em or Hate 'em the Future belongs to them to do with as they see fit, while we dribble or feed worms. You can ,as parents, give them all the right tools but its upto them if they choose to use them. I am not impressed with my generation of Movers and Shakers.
    The reaction against excessive liberalisation has already started and it is religion backed by radical youth that is the mover. The problem is the Western powers are already at war with it. I doubt if The Taliban have next door neighbours who shout expletives at their children.
    My Granny used to say, " Be careful of what you wish for, you may just get it."
    You only need to know 21st century history to know how the state or individuals can regiment and twist youth to its own perverted needs. I say leave the kids alone, give what help you can but I believe my generation has lost the right criticise.The future is theirs so I am off for a dribbling session.
     
  18. C.Evans

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    That's cool. I do use Listerine-any flavor will do fine ;-))
     
  19. C.Evans

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    Hi Skipper, that used to be true but, I gave up eating at Golden Corral-about two years ago. Now all I need is a cup and a straw :lol: :lol:
     
  20. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Thats what happens when you get old Carl...you lose the teeth....Have you tried false ones? I hear you can get them with small tattoos on now....Texas star on Carls teeth when he smiles....blimey...visions...
     

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