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Last Hitler words , true or false ?

Discussion in 'Post War 1945-1955' started by Heinz_Guderian, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. Heinz_Guderian

    Heinz_Guderian Dishonorably Discharged

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    After seeing some post i decided to copy paste the Hitler Last Testament quote which will change the subject of this topic.

    My new question is : Do you think that Hitler really wanted to conquer the World and to kill all the non Germans or non Arian ?

    I stand behind his statement about Jewish influence.

    I makes no sense that Hitler wanted to start WW2 because of Danzig.
     
  2. Volga Boatman

    Volga Boatman Dishonorably Discharged

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    I would have thought that Hitler's last words were,

    "For God's sake stop complaining, Eva....of course the tablets work."
     
  3. PzJgr

    PzJgr Drill Instructor

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    The only 'official' last words of Hitler probably would be what was in his Last Will and Testament. Anything outside of that would be speculative. Nobody will ever know what were his last words.
     
  4. brndirt1

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    Those words are from Hitler's Last Will and Testament, the political not the personal one. Here are the actual words and wording:

    It is untrue that I or anybody else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was desired and instigated exclusively by those international statesmen who were either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests. I have made so many offers for the reduction and elimination of armaments, which posterity cannot explain away for all eternity, that the responsibility for the outbreak of this war cannot rest on me. Furthermore, I never desired that after the first terrible World War a second war should arise against England or even against America. Centuries may pass, but out of the ruins of our cities and monuments of art there will arise anew the hatred for the people who alone are ultimately responsible: International Jewry and its helpers!

    That is the third paragraph of his "Political Testament". I suppose the producers of the scene you refer to thought this was apropos, I myself believe they are correct. That is a fine example of Hitler's warped version of history.

    Goto:

    http://www.auschwitz.dk/Will.htm
     
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  5. Heinz_Guderian

    Heinz_Guderian Dishonorably Discharged

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    Yes , Last Will and Testament. That's it. That's the words ( tho quote i gave came from my memory so i didn't told 100 % exact )

    Thank you very much
     
  6. marc780

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    i dont want to seem pro-Hitler here because i am not. But there is a grain of truth in that statement. Look at it from the German point of view, and examine history thoroughly (i have been amateur ww2 buff for over 30 years), everyone from Goerring on down and even Hitler to some extent, were NOT eager for another world war.

    The wrongs Poland did to Germany, especially after WW1, had some historical precedent. The versaille treaty was an even bigger slap in the face to Hitler but he was at first content to simply reoccupy alsace-Lorraine and the other areas ceded to France by Versailles. Hitler did NOT want war with France or England and their involvement was due to their last-minute pact with Poland, and Hitler's miscalculating their reaction to Hitler's invasion (he thought they would basically ignore it as they had his encroachments in Czechoslovakia and Austria).

    Once Britain and France had declared war against Germany, Hitler now was forced to act. Hitler chose to attack first and the result was of course, one of the most stunning victories in European history. After the fall of France there remained the British and most of the European war, until Barbarossa, was Hitler reacting to British threats on territory he considered important to the Reich.
    -invasion of Norway: Hitler was reluctant to do it but Grand Admiral Raeder urged him to launch this operation (since the British were racing to occupy it first, and could have launched air and sea attacks against German ports, Swedish ore shipments, and in the Baltic).
    -Battle of Britain: the britiish having declared war on Germany, the Germans now felt obliged to finish it, since the British were the last remaining declared belligerant in Europe.
    Hitler was never very enthusiastic about invading England, admired the British, and even considered them a "stabilizing influence" on the world. He also realized and was warned that Operation Sea Lion could easily turn into a disaster and huge defeat for Germany.

    Hitler also believed Goerring's and Doenitz assurances that the British could be slowly strangled without an invasion, by luftwaffe attacks from the air, and by the U-boats (which were in fact several mauling the vulnerable British shipping all through 1940-1941).

    -Invasion of Greece: Ordered by Hitler to rescue Mussolini's bumbling armies and again, to deny the British a foothold on the continent.
    -invasion of crete: done to deny the British the airfields to attack southern europe and axis shipping to North Africa.

    Well into 1941 Hitler seemed genuinely baffled that the British were not willing to make peace. He would gladly have become allies with the British who were, of course, having none of it. His interests lay in the historic drang nocht osten first attempted by the teutonic/Germanic tribes he so admired, and had Hitler's plans come to fruition, all of continental Europe including Russia (as far east as the urals) would have been in his hands, with Britain an isolated (but still British) island fortress.
     
  7. Spaniard

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    If everybody ICCI wants to get technical on Adolf last Words. His Will and testament would of not of been his last words spoken, Why?? The last will and testament of Adolf Hitler was dictated by Hitler to his secretary Traudl Junge in his Berlin Führerbunker on April 29th, 1945, the day he and Eva Braun married, Which would be Today in WWII History.

    Last will and testament of Adolf Hitler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Hitler committed suicide on April 30th 45 in a bunker, he was alone with his Wife. Therefore one will never know what his last words were, but It was 110% to his wife before they both Committed Suicide.
     
  8. von Poop

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    Really?

    "It was desired and instigated exclusively by those international statesmen who were either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests."

    "out of the ruins of our cities and monuments of art there will arise anew the hatred for the people who alone are ultimately responsible: International Jewry and its helpers!"

    Just asking?

    ~A
     
  9. Slipdigit

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    Please expand upon the highlighted statement.

    Do you support the actions by the German government and military against the Jewish citizens of Germany and the nations occupied by Germany during the war and do you hold the Jews responsible for the difficulties that Germany faced during and after the First World War, leading up to Jan 1933?
     
  10. GrandsonofAMarine

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    Is this literally Heinz Guderian?

    Seriously, WTF?! The Jews had nothing to do with starting WWII. Adolf Hitler was the instigator of the war because he wanted lebensraum.

    Some people need to read Mein Kampf and biographies of the man. WWII was a war not only for living space, but as act of vengeance for Germany's defeat in WWI. The stabbed-in-the-back theory as well as the perceived wrongs of The Versailles Treaty so widely believed by Germans was a significant selling point for the Nazis in their quest to win power democratically.

    But as Margaret MacMillan points out in her book "Paris 1919: Six months that changed the world" Germany actually got off LIGHTER in terms of reparations than what the Germans imposed upon the French after the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71.The French essentially returned the favor by occupying the Rhineland after the Germans took Alsace Lorraine from the French in the Franco-Prussian War.

    There would have been no WWII in Europe if not for Adolf Hitler. The German people certainly were not lusting for it as highlighted by the famous anecdote of Hitler's expression of disgust after seeing no enthusiam from the people of Berlin upon the declaration of war.Sullen faces are the only thing that met the parade of military vehicles going down the unter den linden on the 1st of September 1939.

    The guilt of starting WWII lies squarely on the shoulders of Adolf Hitler.
     
  11. Heinz_Guderian

    Heinz_Guderian Dishonorably Discharged

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    I do not agree. And that's only my opinion.

    You think that Hitler wanted to Start WW2 because of Danzig ?
     
  12. Long Bars

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    Pure speculation as to what Hitler's literal last words were. I have a feeling, though, that they were (at least to him) words of defiance, glory, and German superiority.
     
  13. Heinz_Guderian

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    But it's this Last Testament , not same fake gossip. :)

    Btw , can i ask administrators to delete this topic because i got my answer to original question and this topic is taking another form.
     
  14. sunny971

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    you haven't explained what you meant by that?
     
  15. efestos

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    I guess it's a wrong question:

    IMHO this would be better: Do you think Hitler would have stopped his agression after getting Danzing ?

    Was this guy reliable? He promissed to stop after getting his part of Czechoslovakia. Munich agreement ... you know.

    He invaded Poland because he could do it after the non agression pact. He didn't matter ith Honor or to keep faith.

    They should have ended with Nazi Germany after the re-militarization of the Ruhr, or the occupation of Alsace ... or when he sent the Condor Legion. (Although in this case, I must admit that perhaps I would not be here).

    GB and France wouldn´t have found evidences of the rearmament and their goverments would probably have fallen. But it was worth it, wasn´t it?

    Would it have been enough blow on the Nazi´s nose: the Royal Navy had sent back the German merchant in the Spanish Civil War, to stop the aggression of the most famous paranoid patient in history?

    You blame the allies for answer the atack of Adolph Hitler. That's not correct, you should blame him. Blaming the victim is a known tactic of terrorist groups still in use.

    And there was the Holocaust.
     
  16. Heinz_Guderian

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  17. sunny971

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    I think this would be Hitler's last words....

    Comes from a very reliable source...

    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCn7Xk_6sb8[/YOUTUBE]


    "you vant me to kill myself.... you suck, you suck!"
     
  18. Kai-Petri

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    Hitler wanted to create a world for his supermen and destroy the untermensch. He killed gipsies, he killed German babies who had something wrong with them, he killed slavs, he killed homosexuals.... It was not just the jews, don´t you see... Hitler also was ready to kill anyone who disagreed with him, Röhm etc etc. The list is endless.
     
  19. Heinz_Guderian

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    Hm , can you be more specific about which Slavs ? Russia killed 12 000 Polish Generals ( Slav VS Slav ) Croats slaughtered 700 000 Serbs ( Slav Vs Slav ) ....if you mean Russians in this case by Slavs , then ok.
     
  20. Skipper

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    Hitler killed Poles and Serbs as well
     

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