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P-47 Thunderbolt, Corsica, France

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  1. Jim05

    Jim05 Member

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    P-47 Thunderbolt lying in 20 metres of water off the north-east coast of Corsica. I have put some clips of the wreck here
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    D-model?
     
  3. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Looks like it.
     
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    Probably not…the cockpit tub looks like a birdcage canopy type…
     
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    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    The front windscreen and frame is gone. The D model, Razorback" had a rearview mirror mounted on the top outside of the canopy. The "G" model had a bubble canopy.
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Yeah, the dohickey where the canopy parks is wrong for a D, leans the other way.
     
  8. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    C model ?
     
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    Hard to say Roger...The D changed mid production:
    Started as: You can easily see the bird cage canopy...
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    But then the installation of the bubble canopy which shaved the razorback off to more of just a hole in the fusilage:
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    Both are P47Ds...Confusing and probably not correct. Mid production a number of changes were made requiring a new designation IMO.
     
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    The point of the triangle on the canopy is LOW in the one immediately above. In the OP it's HIGH. Design/Construction shift or different model?
     
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    Another view of the "D" OP picked it...
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    The canopy is quite different...In the razorback its a two piece affair...Hard to find a good pic of it but this should suffice:
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    Asking Biak to talk to his P-47 mates and ask if the two versions should infact have different designations?
     
  13. Jim05

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    Hello all and thanks for the interesting discussion. I tried to load a couple of clips I took during the dive which give a better view of the aircraft, but couldn't do it directly and am having trouble with my YouTube account :mad: However I should be able to post the clips in a couple of days if YouTube clears me, otherwise the clips can be found here
     
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    She seems to have had quite a bit taken from her…Canopy or at least the front screen…no sign of the 8 50s…prop taken (or blown off) and a cavity where the engine should be…
     
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    Hello CAC, yes there has been a fair bit stripped from her. As shown in the clips that I link to (and will hopefully be soon able to upload here) the 50s have been removed, however the engine is a few metres from the fuselage
     
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    Unless there were major changes or upgrades the "B-C-D-G" stayed the same with additional letter-numbering after. P-47-24-RE. Adding the bubble canopy sure changed the appearance but underneath she was all Jug. I'm going to stick with the D just because the timeline fits. Rather late to receive the C's, but not out of the question and early for the G.
     
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    Managed to break back into my YouTube account - here's a clip of the P-47
     
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    The D model switched to the bubble canopy with the D-35. Prior to that it was still the "razorback".
     
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    The B and C were made in tiny numbers by Republic. 101 B, and 607 C. The D model became the standard production model with the P-47D-35 switching to the bubble canopy. The G model was the same as the D model only made by Curtiss Aircraft. The RE was the later USAAF standardized nomenclature, like P-47D-35-RE with RE standing for the manufacturer.

    The E, F, H, K, and L models were all experimental types using different engines trying for higher speeds. The M was an up-engined D model that saw limited service. The N was virtually a new plane with a new wing and major changes to the fuselage.
     
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    Thanks for all the detailed information!
     

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