Discussion in 'Pre-World War 2 Armour' started by BL@CK J@CK, Feb 21, 2005.
http://www.legionstratega.org/Zbrojowni ... lgirus.htm
The T-22 looks cool!
But the T-42
All topics about tanks predating WWII are allowed in the Tanks of WWII section.
Thanks for the link. First photo I´ve seen of the Grotte tank.
Any translations on the texts, or alternative information? Some of those designs are very interesting!
Hey Panzerman the only "krokodil" allowed here is this: :wink:
Back on topic - what the heck is the thing with the near vertical tracks? For climbing trenches, or..?
It would really help if one of us could translate Polish...
More info and pics on Tank Grote are at
(.. and there's plenty more interesting stuff on that website)
Thanks, son of piet. At least this is a site we can all grasp beyond gazing at the pictures! :grin:
Skua: I truly believe the heyday of German poetry was "I am ze operator wiz my pocket calculator", but I could be wrong of course. :wink:
Anybody know anything about that first tank shown there? The "box" shaped one? We need a translator.
I know a little - it was an attempt to get a tank with a big gun into WW1.
Based, IIRC, on the Holt chassis, the Russians caved in before it was even built.
(All the above could be wrong! :wink: )
There wasn't a russian heavy tank till 1934 with the T-56 , and it was pretty crappy. i think there was the T-100 too.
I wish I could read what ever that was. I think it was....... I don't know.
I might be entirely wrong, so dont take any of this very seriously.
Doesnt the classification for "heavy tank" change over time? I think that the Pz. 4 was known as a heavy tank at the beginning of WW2... and then rebadged a medium tank.
For the "age", there may well have been heavy tanks?
Whoaaa, whats that thing with the massive wheels? It looks like one of those old bikes except monsterous.
it was the tsar tank, we already discused that "thing" , but i do not remember where,
perhaps in the biggest tanks or ugliest!!!
Even for their time most Russian tanks before the ones he mentioned were not heavy. Actually, it's very hard to define what is "heavy". By the start of WW2, the Russians considered the KV1 heavy with its 43 tons while the Germans stll considered their Panzer IV heavy with its 23 tons.
the T-30 is supposed to resemble a battle ship i read about it and it was post world war 1 i think it has 4 little turrents then the big one in the middle.
the 'big' one dosnt really have a big gun well not as big as u would think
Russian led in lats (summers; years) 1911-1915 engineer W.D. Over tank for tsar's army work Mendelejew. Probably, < credible > there is one of first this type of giant about mass 170 tone (tonne). Gun was main arming 120 .mm engineer call him (it) " land-based " he (its; his; it) forecast already in (to) krążownikiem Mendelejew then necessity of armoring of such good vehicle. Unfortunately, neither russian industry neither technologies allowed structure this type of vehicle. Second (other) project of this project engineer has emerged too, vehicle about smallest gabarits and arm with ckm-y.