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Sweden is demanded that expiation of collaboration with the Third Reich should be done!

Discussion in 'Eastern Europe' started by Grottel, Mar 5, 2015.

  1. Grottel

    Grottel New Member

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    Pardon?
     
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    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Sweden sold military equipment, boats, etc to Germany. After the bombing of ball bearings factories, Sweden sold to Nazi Germany about the same amount as were lost during the bombings. Innocent indeed.
     
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    Sweden sold significant amounts of ball bearings and Iron already before the war, and continued to do so until (IIRC) the winter of '43. It was a neutral country, and had to tread a very thin line. It could not produce enough food for itself (it wasn't the western allies selling food to Sweden). In 1939 it was a poverty stricken country armed with what was basically two matchsticks and a wet blanket. What was Sweden supposed to do? Starve, and thank the British for their prayers when the Germans placed jackboots on their necks? Those countries that were invaded by the Germans had their economies pillaged, and paid for the privilege of occupation. The European war started in September 1939, and by mid June 1940 France was defeated. IOW less than 9 months to adapt to a new reality. Let's be a tad realist in our judgement.
     
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    Whoa...heres a blast from the past...GS
     
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    Wasn't that story set in Denmark? Anyway, it couldn't be collaboration. It was just trade. What about other countries that sold war material to Germany? Countries like Lichtenstein?
     
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    Switzerland took the Jewish gold and stolen art into their bank. No wonder Patton said in late 1944 let´s go through Switzerland to Ruhr.

    Sweden also let the German troops through to Lappland to start the offensive towards Murmansk.

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    from the book by Allders and Wiebes on covering financial actions:

    After the Schweinfurt bombings the SKF ( Swedish ball bearings factory ) tripled its deal with Germany ( 1943 ).

    General Arnold was mad with the US foreign politics not able to stop the Swedish trade with nazi Germany:

    " If you guys had even one tenth of the guts of the guys who were shot over Schweinfurt you would tell the Swedes that we will boycott them now and after the war if they send even one piece of ball bearings to Germany!"
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    Examples of money changing hands...

    from Aalders-Wiebes book on cloaking financial actions:

    "In 1946 the US foreign department gave an estimate of German investement in neutral countries:

    Switzerland 250 million dollars

    Sweden 105 million dollars (!!)

    Spain 90 million dollars

    Portugal 27 million dollars "
     
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    "In March the department for aircraft productions announced that even as little as 100 tons of ball bearings would be sufficient to cover 75 percent of what was needed for 1200 Lancaster aircraft and 60 percent of what was needed for 1600 Mosquito aircraft. Some ball bearings were already being transported by aircraft from Stockholm, but it was far from enough to meet Britain's requirements."

    "Operation Bridford had contributed greatly to meeting Britain's need for ball bearings and machinery, and also provided an essential portion of the equipment needed for the new factory being built in England, enabling the country to produce her own ball bearings."

    (Note, it was unlikely to be Stockholm physically. The SKF factory is in Gothenburg, on the West cost of Sweden)

    "...ball bearings were very important to the war effort in both countries, comprising in total about 58% of German supplies and 31% of British. Despite favouring Germany with more exports, the Swedish government allowed the British access to Swedish territory to ensure the delivery of the bearings through the German blockade. In relation to price increases for other exports, prices for ball bearings were time-dependent on the position of the acquiring country. From an overall perspective, the United Kingdom received a discount which Germany did not share. However, with the exception of direct exports, representing respectively about 10% and 15% of total German and British supplies, it would have been difficult for the Swedish industry to successfully withhold all supplies of ball bearings to either belligerent."

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs...t was,agreement throughout the wartime period.

    "The negotiations led to an Allied-Swedish agreement in London in September 1943 under which the United States and Britain allowed an increase in exports to Sweden, including critically needed oil and rubber, in exchange for which Sweden abrogated its agreements with Germany for the transit of German military matériel (exclusive of oil) and German soldiers across Sweden, further reduced iron ore exports, ended Swedish naval escorting of German ships in the Baltic, and reduced ballbearing exports."

    "During the last 18 months of World War II, unremitting Allied diplomatic pressure and the crumbling of the Nazi war effort moved Sweden gradually to reduce and ultimately to end its trade to Germany. In implementation of the September 1943 agreement, Swedish exports of iron ore to Germany, which had averaged more than 9 million tons annually during the War, were reduced to 7 million tons in 1944. The export of Swedish ball-bearings to Germany was also steadily reduced during 1944."
    https://1997-2001.state.gov/regions/eur/rpt_9806_ng_sweden.pdf
     
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    Interesting. I have read 2-3 books about the neutral countries but any of these details are not included. Well, that is why we share information. Thanx for the posting!
     

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