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The mystery of Glenn Miller...

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  1. brndirt1

    brndirt1 Saddle Tramp

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    and the disappearance of his small "Norseman" aircraft over the English Channel began on this date in 1944. I always wondered if the accepted/public story of his death wasn't a cover-up of one sort or the other. I mean by that, perhaps he was downed by "friendly fire" and the powers in charge of the mistake managed to cover their arses by putting out the story of his being lost in the fog.

    I'd just like his memory and the great Big Band sound to not be forgotten.:(
     
  2. sniper1946

    sniper1946 Expert

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    intersting theory clint...but there are plenty of those..;)
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    [​IMG][​IMG]The BBC's Richard Bilton
    "His plane left for France in 1944 and was never seen again"
    [​IMG] real 28k
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    [​IMG]Friday, 11 February, 2000, 22:46 GMT
    Bomb clue to Glenn Miller mystery


    [​IMG] Entry for 15 Dec 1944: "Bombs jettisoned in sea"


    A World War II airman's logbook could solve the 55-year mystery of the disappearance of American bandleader Glenn Miller. The swing-beat impresario's plane vanished over the English Channel on 15 December 1944 and Miller was never seen again.

    But the log-book of wartime RAF flight engineer Derek Thurman, from Derby, could provide an answer to how the hugely popular musician met his death.

    The book was sold on Friday for $880 including buyer's premium on auction house Sotheby's internet sales site.

    It tells of how a British air-raid on Germany, the night Miller disappeared, was sent back to base.


    [​IMG] Glenn Miller: Leader of swing
    The 138 Lancaster bombers dumped their explosives over the sea - as was normal practice to ensure a safe landing.
    Mr Thurman said three crew members on his plane spotted a light aircraft below them, which they believed was brought down by the hail of jettisoned bombs.
    "The three people who saw it were absolutely convinced that they saw a small aircraft going in the opposite direction when we released the bombs," he told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme.
    "The raid was aborted when we were south of Brussels because our fighter escort couldn't get airborne and we had to jettison our bomb load before we could land.
    "We went to an area that was specifically set aside for that purpose, that was clear of shipping and no other aircraft should have been in that area at all."
    Each of the 138 Lancasters dropped a 4,000lb bomb and a number of incendiaries, he recalled.
    "Nobody anticipated there being an aircraft there at all. There was a shout that there was someone there. The navigator shot out of his seat to look and saw it whip by, then the rear gunner said 'It's gone in, flipped over and gone in'.
    "He must have been off track to be in that place at that time. "Whether it was brought down by the blast from a bomb or was hit is anyone's guess." When a similar document from the same flight was sold by Sotheby's last April, bidding eventually reached £22,000.
     
  3. GRW

    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

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    I think that theory was aired by After the Battle too, Ray.
     
  4. mcoffee

    mcoffee Son-of-a-Gun(ner)

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    Miller in England in August '44
     

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  5. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    Strange coincidence - tomorrow I have to visit the Bedford Corn Exchange, where Miller's band played during WWII.....:confused:
     
  6. belasar

    belasar Court Jester

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    It might not take a hit or blast effects, perhaps a unexpected near hit may have caused the pilot to lose control in order to avoid being hit.
     
  7. Martin Bull

    Martin Bull Acting Wg. Cdr

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    The sad fact is, aircraft simply vanishing without trace over the sea was a very common occurence in WWII for many reasons. As usual, when it's someone famous, everyone has a theory.....
     

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