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Z-25 and Z-31 Narvik class ships after 1945 for Erich and other KM buffs

Discussion in 'Post War 1945-1955' started by Skipper, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. Skipper

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    amazing what a fresh coat of paint can do eh ? though the bridge looks like it needs a mending and a good wash. Skip were thest the only 2 KM Destroyers turned over to the French as I have no clue the British and the Russians seem to have divided the lot and a couple over to the US.
     
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    The French also got the Paul Jacobi (Z-5, renamed Desaix) and Theodor Riedel (Z-6, Kleber), torpedo boat T-23 (l'Alsacien) which was almost the size of a destroyer, and the smaller T-11 (Bir Hakeim) and T-20 (Baccarat).
     
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    Excellent additions Carronade.

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    pin of the Kleber


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    picture of the Bir Hakeim



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  5. Carronade

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    Thanks for the salute, Skipper, but that's a different Bir Hakeim, a US-built minesweeper (note hull number M614) which served in the French navy from 1953-1970. The German Type 1935 torpedo boat was flush-decked with a noticeable sheer as shown here:

    German torpedo boats of World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The "forecastle" configuration, although it extends most of the length of the ship, is common in minesweepers; the low open quarterdeck is well suited for sweeping gear.
     
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    For some reason, one time I tried to post this, the computer turned it into a bunch of gibberish, which I rather resent, since I'm quite capable of doing that myself!!
     
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    Thanks again Carronade, I wasn't aware there were two Bir Hakeims. I initially tried to find the pin picture .
     
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    the P.J. of T. R. of coure were very active in the Baltic with off shore bombardments of Soviet posistions and including the removing of the German populace and placing them westward during the closing days of the war. Interesting to besides the T-Boots performing similar functions did try and provide close support AA for the heavier destroyers and Prinz Eugen, etc.
     

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