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Discussion in 'Military Service Records & Genealogical Research' started by LRusso216, Jan 29, 2010.

  1. 82nd Trax

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    Now that is one rare plaque. My friend gave me a small grouping from a 473rd vet who used to cut his hair. He was a barber after the war. The single scroll I posted belonged to him. I just always thought it was very unusual and couldnt find a lot of info at first. I found the unit history and then I wrote Gen. Yarborough and he sent me a lot of info. Then I finally found a uniform group and got to interview the vet. I think this stuff is probably more rare than the FSSF as they werent in existence that long or that many of them.
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    Actually, I misworded the post. I only have the picture, not the plaque. Have you seen Patrick Audinet's site on the 473rd? I got a lot of info from him and his site. Here's the link http://pjaudinetsr.com/
     
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    I saw that some time ago and didnt remember his name until now. Thanks for the link.
     
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    Not a problem. There is another member 473rdSon that I have been in touch with as well. I sent him some pictures of men in the unit and he sent me copies of some reports he found at the National Archives. I did recognize several names. My father, mother and I attended a number of reunions of Co. K when I was a kid in the 50s. Sadly, all the vets I knew are dead.
     
  5. 473rdSon

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    Lou, earlier you posted the following picture. My father kept a small box in one of his dresser drawers with small items from the war. In that box there are two metal "Bayonet and Ribbon Scroll" emblems identical to the one on the top of you picture. Does anyone know where this emblem would have been worn? Also in that box is his 5th Army ring. Does anyone know the history/info behind these types of items. Were they "official" military issue? Were they handed out to the solders by the individual units? Thanks, Ron

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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    Ron, I have a photo of Phil Hewitt (from Co. K). He is shown wearing the bayonet and ribbon on his cap. Here is the picture.

    View attachment 10742
     
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    Lou,
    Thanks
    Ron
     
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    Hi 82nd Trax
    Do you know the name of the 473rd vet?
    ciao
    m
     
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    The 473rd insignia was designed and made in Italy. Col (temp) Yarborough is credited for the design of the little bayonet and scroll device. A dies set was contracted to an unknown Italian firm, probably in Florence or Pisa, which was also provided with a number of spent artillery shell casings as part of the deal. The so obtained die struck brass bayonets had a small strip (very fragile) of brass soldered to the back and were silver plated and painted. The insignias were never authorized by the competent Heraldic commission and were made in batches, issued between March and April 1945. Another small (?) batch was probably struck by another firm in Genova in May 1945 to complete the order. Most men only received one insignia. After redeployment to Rome for inactivation, more insignias became available and some of the men that were not going to be rotated home got three.
    In 1998 I found a jar full of unfinished insignias on a flea market stall in Genova. A small marking on the back led me to a small "coin and medal making" company. Here I found one half of the die.
    In 1999 473 insignias were struck using the refurbished dies and made available to the 473rd Infantry Regiment Association (many of the former members of the Regiment had complained that they never received the original ones).
    ciao
    m
     
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    I believe that the insignia mounted on the shield was made after the war by one of the (then) 4 vet associations (434th, 435th, 532nd and K/473rd) active up to the early 1990s. Vet F. M. told me he had several made as souvenirs of the vet reunions in the '70s.
    ciao
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    Seacon, welcome to the forum. That is great information. I would love to get my hands on one of the pins, but I'm sure they are scarce and expensive. How did you come to know about the 473rd? I'm always interested to hear from people who know of this short-lived unit.
     
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    Hi Lou
    The 473rd liberated my hometown in 1945. Much of what they did over here is not known so I thoght I could restore some... credit by researching and writing their story.
    That got me involved with the 473rd Association and eventually became the unofficially appointed unit historian/Italian branch (!!!), battlefield guide and logistical support for visiting vets and their families...
    Also have a pictorial history in the works (about 500 photos) covering Operation Second Wind and the first weeks of occupation
    ciao
    m
     
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    I still have a few of the re-struck insignias. Let me know if you would like to have one (or more than one).
    ciao
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    I would love to have one of the pins. Send me an email with the particulars and how to contact you.

    You wouldn't happen to be the fellow who helped Patrick Audinet would you?

    Looking forward to hearing from you.
     
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    Yup..!
    I guess that's me. Clifford (Pat's dad) was the luckiest battlefield "investigation" ever done.
    Will PM you with my email contact.
    ciao
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    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member

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    What a truly small world. As I told you in my email, Patrick's site was one of the first I came across when I began researching my father's service. He helped guide my search, and I finally came across this forum.

    I have emailed you my address and look forward to hearing more from you.

    Thanks for your help.
     

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