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  1. Takao

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    Not to mention about 4 political forums and an atheist forum.
     
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    Lol. Didn't realize. Hope he got all the attention he was looking for.
     
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    Pretty sure this is all my fault. Will apologize to the forum.
     
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    George Patton Canadian Refugee

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    How.... Canadian... of you. Eh?
     
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    Where is the video hosted? A URL is not showing up when I mouse over it. Could it be one of those things where he gets paid for clicks?
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member Patron   WW2|ORG Editor

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    Seven forums I've counted.

    I'm off to the suggestions thread.
     
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    It's quite clear it's a troll but for some reason I feel like playing with it a bit more. Use it to make appoint or two and clarify some issues.
    Clearly you fail to understand or are ignoring that history uses the scientific method. A theory is developed based on evidence and logic and comes to be accepted. If you have a hypothesis that runs counter to that theory you have to produce an argument that is at least approaching the original in soundness. It has nothing to do with the "claim" being made by "the USA" in fact most of the events you describe are not found in official histories all though they may be referred to in official documents. The accepted view of history is much more than a simple "claim" and indeed even the official views often will mention where there is some uncertainty. A classic example is the demise of the Hood. Now there is no question that she was sunk during the battle of the Denmark straights. However there was and to some extent still is some question as to exactly what happened. The official inquest into this mentions several possibilities and suggest the most likely one as well as ruling out some others as improbable or even impossible. In any case such a report has considerably more "weight" when it comes to believability than any counter claim you would make especially if you didn't even try to produce evidence to support it.
    I don't look down on people for their religion but I do look down on those who try to force others to believe as they do or attempt to harm them. In case you missed it I referred to religious "fanatics". A fanatic is someone who has lost the ability to reason at least with regards to some things. I.e. they have given up part of what makes them human. Your attitudes, as expressed in your post to date, are consistent with such individuals. Now the fact that you are a troll means you may not really believe that but by promulgating such attitudes you become part of the problem.
    Nope. To some extent this is semantics but it's also a process anyone whose had calculus should recognize.
    If he is/was frozen he's dead. If he was resurrected he was dead. If the most accurate way you can write the probability that he is dead is 100% then he's dead.

    What "text book" are you talking about? What "state agenda"? Why do you keep referring to "text books" and "official" or "government" histories? Some sort of conspiracy theorist as well as a troll? Interesting that you claim to be 100% unbiased but just a bit ago you were claiming there was no such thing as 100%. I certainly have seen nothing to support your lack of bias and indeed my experience is that in an absolute sense that is impossible even to define much less achieve. I will agree that you don't seamed at all biased toward the truth.
    But "history PHDs" have a fair number of the pieces and some feeling for some of the ones they don't have. You just invent your own pieces. So it's not at all "just like" they do it. Indeed it's pretty close to the antithesis of how they do it.
    Is there "a US public school test book take"? If so you shouldn't have any trouble articulating it on a specific issue.
    Knowingly "embellishing" the truth is exactly lying. You also don't "make it better" by making it wrong. So now you're claiming to be a "transparent" troll? Sort of the troll version of Harvey? Just about as believable as anything else you've said.
     
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    Reply I have been found out fair and square I do not hold the opinion I claimed to hold and only wanted to see if someone believed my tall tale. Bravo this is not a serious video in terms of being factual
     
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    You got me brother im a troll.
     
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    Now that the charade is up does anyone have any questions comments about my work now that its clear its a big joke.
     
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    I do not get paid for clicks my channel is brand new and you need millions of hits to make any money on youtube.
     
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    Ok just for you I will keep up my trolling
     
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    I believe I can chat about my video where ever I want its not like im a robot or just post and peace I engage thus I do not see what is wrong with my behavior. Also while a troll I am not abusive ever here or anywhere.
     
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    Just a spammer wasting other people's time.
     
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    Even you must admit you found this thread so engaging you stayed with it for three days and did enumerable internet research on it. :D your welcome
     
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    As I said above, I hope you had fun and received all of the attention you seek based on your film. I have a couple of statements to make. Please take them, absorb the ideas and go about your business. As you know, the internet (mostly) is free and is a wonderful hub of information. You, I and others around the world, especially on this forum, can feel free to learn, debate and broaden our knowledge of whatever we deem necessary. Woefully though, the internet has also become a cesspool for garbage, revisionist ideals that scream of immorality. 3/4 of the internet is pornography and gratuitous violence. My students, who have daily access to the web, must be beset with a heavy firewall just to feel safe to browse the internet.

    Why am I giving you this long winded diatribe about the state of our digital world? It's very, very simple.

    On this forum we have a few WWII veterans, authors, students, scholars, historians, etc. who land on these threads to learn, need assistance and enjoy the friendly debate. You posting this film on this forum for the pure joy of screwing with everyone is a blatant show of disrespect to everyone who posts here. If you don't want to talk of history, why bother. Post in a different location, you clearly have something to say or you just need your fifteen minutes. However you slice it, please keep your posts on this forum to actual WWII history. Don't poke fun at those men and women who have sacrificed their lives and those who dedicate time to study history and historiography. Congrats. You made a mediocre amateur film that made you "famous."
     
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    belasar Court Jester Staff Member

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    Actually we did not find it engaging, but rather we found it harmful as it trivialized a very important period in history. One that should not be forgotten, nor misinterpreted by trolls interested in their own amusement. Say goodbye silently, you are done here.
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member Patron   WW2|ORG Editor

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    No, I just followed the original lie you post with mild disdain.
     
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    von Poop Waspish WW2|ORG Editor

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    And that's the best kind.
    It's a dying art; people have come to the erroneous conclusion that 'trolling' means 'someone posting things you disagree with', or just hurling abuse.
    It doesn't.
    This chap put real effort in. That video didn't make itself, and the dogged but consistently polite replies are at the higher end of the game.

    Huge difference between conspiracy/ill-informed nutter & someone merely toying with the Internet.
     

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