An Open Letter to Obama

No, you have it all wrong. Carter chucked a can of Billy Beer at Ford. With Ford momentarily stunned, Carter then tried to suffocate him with a bag of peanuts. It was almost the end for Ford when he inadvertently tripped over a rose bush. Carter, caught off-guard by Ford's "intentional" sly maneuver, stood there in shock. Quick thinking Ford then pulled out his handy Teddy bust and won the fight.

 

It was a slow news day...WW2F gold. It is everywhere. Just need to dig a little.

OP's post really nailed some points aboot the pres and policy.

An example:
http://nypost.com/2014/11/16/the-lies-that-are-central-to-obamas-agenda/

 

Only for a nookaler injuneer peanut farmer

 

It is clear the stump is just a back door way open for those of a one-sided point of view whether accurate or not..... to be allowed to hi-jack the direction of those interested in WWII things down a road of the most selfish and self centered points of political view to use the forums leadership positions to force views upon others nay saying what has been already decided by vote and election that is not found to be of their persuasion....the United States has spoken in election and will speak again but twice now have chosen a path left unsupported by these supposed people so loyal to the "American Culture".....and to make it worse to allow the heaving of insults upon nearly every single ally to the U.S. war efforts that made success in WWII a major accomplishment. (Perhaps not in this particular thread but in others). By insulting and finding fault with different countries (WWII Allies) and especially their people(yes immigrant descendants of our allies) because of the short-sided views of groups that dominate this forum it proves to be the caveat that becomes the vehicle for infinite ethnocentric thoughts of superiority over others such as the insult against our president as being of un-American culture. Otto and the choice of moderators as well as those they choose to feature subtract greatly from the value of the subject matter held so dear by so many in honoring those who now serve, those who served before and especially those who were a part of the "Greatest Generation". Damage done cannot be undone. 99% of the time the bigot is blind to his own bigotry and that seems to be the pervasive fault present in "American Culture" our freedoms have always allowed but have never been able to overcome however we progress to diminish it. My apologies that my name cannot be removed from this forum that insults members who are from other countries and have to read the rubbish the moderators cling to as being of such importance for inclusion.

 

Victor,
Talk about hijacking. This is not the first time you have criticized this forum or it's moderators and have threatened to leave in the past. Yet you still are here. If your are going to leave......then leave. Just like some groups in the US, if you don't agree with their point of view then you are wrong. Everybody HAS to be in line with their thinking. Dude, just leave if you don't like it here

 

Yes, if it were possible for one to leave and all posts of your creation were to leave too......I would leave but I have posted information about those I most admire and if I were to quit....I cannot take things with me....so one cannot so easily get off this forum so I stay and will always stand up for those who are denigrated, minimized, or otherwise insulted and shall rise up to point this out each time a group decides it is within their intentions to belittle those whom they do not agree with and do so by innuendo and insult to accomplish their denigration of others. It is true I am no better than anyone else but as you so readily accept the insulting attitudes previously displayed....you may also have to put up with reading my answers as well. Sir(I will not call you dude) if you didn't like my supposed hijacking.....you are free to follow your own advice. To be accurate, I do not blame all moderators and appreciate the job they do until they also join in with their approvals of bone picking absolute rubbish.

 

Victor.

This thread is five years old. Just thought I'd point that out...

 

I thought Stump threads expired after a while.
Damnit! So some of my later night ramblings are still extant!

 

It's like drunken late night calls to old girlfriends; once done they can not be undone!

 

I am sorry to those I may have offended.....but a fresh posting of something like this will be noticed and reacted to as I have done.

 

I did not threaten to leave. I pointed out that you are pretty much doing what you were complaining about. That is all. Stick to the facts

 

Victor,

There is no need to get uptight. If you don't like an area, leave. No one is forcing you to stay, so I just don't get it. As for having your name associated with the forum, if you really want out ask one of the moderators to delete your account and your profile. Don't get me wrong -- I'm not encouraging you to leave. I'm just confused by your attitude. You don't like it (I'm assuming I'm being lumped into the group), so why stick around?

For example, I rarely participate in the stump because I don't like the way most of the threads develop. Does that mean I want to lecture those who do? No.

 

I never understood the whole Obama is destroying our nation thing, Who has been no worse then any other president you have had over the last decade/decades. They all spent massive amounts on the military, they all gave massive hand outs to corporations and congress was constantly pushing back and forth between the various sides preventing any real advancement and change.

You want massive military and to still pay hand outs - Pay more taxes, Dont want to pay more taxes - Stop the corporate hands outs and decrease your military size.

 

You do realize that it is the consumer that pays the "corporate taxes" don't you...

After all, my house ain't paying the property tax.

 

On one hand yes the consumer pays the corporate taxes on another the corporation pays the wages to such consumers.. In any case what is your point? I fail to see one Sorry (Just had long day at work, Tired lol)

 

My point, in a roundabout fashion, is that ending "corporate handouts" is not going to happen. It buys too many votes. Much the same as "pork barrel spending", which nearabout every politician, at one time or another, has called for ending...at least until they have got some of it, and then they quickly shut their yap. For that matter, Defense spending and medicare/medicade, are about two of the biggest handouts, and again they buy too many votes.

A smaller military would be great too, but that is not the be all and end all of it. IIRC, roughly half of military spending is for health costs and pensions. So, even if we went to a smaller military, it would be some time before any cost benefits were seen. Not to mention, what would happen to the world if the "world's policeman" decided no to show up for work.

As to more taxes, we are paying them...It's called Obamacare, and it's the biggest tax package to come down the pike in some time. And having corporations pay more in taxes, while popular wit the "low information" voter is a non-starter, because corporations don't pay taxes people do.

Well, it's the same hand, not a different one...Just a matter of bookkeeping...Does the consumer pay more at the checkout or recieve a smaller wage.

 

Does seem to be the issue, Got from a little bit of a comedy sketch but watching from 2:05 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbY45rHj8w&list=PLoO6eym0L0F3mJ7qk4ogi8loeiMH8Osrj&index=2 US politicians do seem to be one of a kind and not the best kind.

Looking at what I can on military budget and can not find in any point where half the budget is for healthcare and pensions. Most repetitive number I can find is around the $150b mark, Big slice but not close to 50%, More like 25%. You really need to look at all asset's that you have and work out if you really need asset's so large (Nimitz class and Gerald R Ford class carriers) or so numerous (Amount of combat aircraft in the USAF). To me your air force is combat aircraft heavy when most sit in the US where their is no credible threat that they can go up against while your aircraft carriers are really massive and crew heavy when there are smaller cheaper options with less crew (Queen Elizabeth class, Yes just as costly but much of that could be attributed to the amount of back flips in design and limited production numbers).. Just an outside perspective.

While not against Obamacare, Medicaid or Medicare what I don't get is why the US has three separate programs when most other nations only have one.. Just seems like a good way to waste money funding three separate groups of staff when you only need to fund one group. Im all for universal healthcare but seems to me the US has a habit of taking something everyone else has managed to do successfully and ruin it and as such it must not work... I believe a recent GAO report found something like $8 billion in wasteful spending just between Medicare and medicaid in 2013? (Ill double check and post link).

Yes and No, Not as simple as that. Some one has to pay for the need for more money, Either comes directly from higher income taxes or higher company taxes or simply cutting all the tax write off's.. Or simply give up all the things you like (Reduced military, reduced infrastructure spending - Which is already inadequate, less funds for emergency services etc etc etc)