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Anyone find anything wrong with "Enemy At The Gates"?

Discussion in 'WWII Films & TV' started by A.GREG, Apr 8, 2001.

  1. Martin Bull

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    Latest on the Bovington Tiger 1 - they got the engine running a few weeks back but it immediately blew a piston. So the engine's out and they're starting over....But the tank is back on display.

    That half-track - they are around, I saw one at the Beltring show last week in immaculate, running order.
     
  2. Bish OBE

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    Was that the one owned by the SBG. If so, believe it or not, it is not a genuine 251. Can't remember off the top of my head exactly what it is, but they did a good job.
     
  3. Martin Bull

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    Really sorry, Bish - dunno whose it was. It was lunchtime & no-one was about. Whatever it was, it was very good - good enough to fool me, anyway ! :rolleyes:
     
  4. 9th Waffen SS

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    The Tiger's in SPR were T-34 conversions. They made 2 of them. 1 was pretty beat up during filming. Both now are at Bovington, Tank Museum.

    See this link for more info:
    http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ipmsuk/sig_armour.htm

    While they look a little "off" for us purists, they work quite well for the public at large. And even though it is off a bit in terms of dimensions, I'd still love to have one...
     
  5. Martin Bull

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    Many thanks indeed for the posting and link, 9th Waffen-SS ! The mystery of the SPR Tigers is solved at last.... ;)
     
  6. Friedrich

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    "Saving Private Ryan" is such a good film that it doesn't need a love or friendship story to complete it (or ruin it, like "Pearl Harbour"). But arggghhhh!!! :mad: You, cold Brit!!! I bet he is single :D Hehehehe...

    "Band of Brothers" has a lack of dramatic feelings (talking about human relations), I just felt some empty when I watched it. I have in on tape!!! HAHAHAHA! :D
     
  7. Friedrich

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    I have just watched "Enemy at the Gates" yesterday with my beloved and I can tell you that I loved it, AGAIN!!!

    I noted all the mistakes you said and yes, they are true, but the film stills being a jewel! It is just excellent!!! I felt enormously excited, sad, happy and all the feelings it provokes as if it was the first time I watched it... I just love it: the actings, the music, the suspense, the story, the effects, the scenary, the drama, the tragedy, the love story (I don't care what Mr. cold-heart says... :D ), etc.

    It makes me sigh... And I nearly cried at the end (even knowing exactly what happens)... But that was perhaps because of real life. I do not cry with films...
     
  8. CrazyD

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    Sure, Friedrich... that's what all us guys say! :D :D :D

    I'd agree though- with SPR and Enemy at the Gates, we have two very, very well done ww2 films. I love the two together, because we can see two of the main theaters of the war.
    And if someone can show me a perfect movie, with no flaws, well, I'd be amazed! The flaws in those two are certianly not too much to deal with.
     
  9. Friedrich

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    The films are too damned good that you don't pay attention to the flaws!!! [​IMG]

    The last time I cried with a film was with "Brave Heart" at the cinema in 1995!!! :rolleyes:
     
  10. Martin Bull

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    Last time I cried at a film was 'The English Patient'
    ( ... I cried with laughter !! ) :D
     
  11. Friedrich

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    To hell with you, Brit!!! :D
     
  12. Martin Bull

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    ( I put that one in specially - he rises to the bait every time ! ) [​IMG]
     
  13. Friedrich

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    I didn 't understand that :confused: But that can't be good, can it? :D
     
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    Strictly speaking of the book--I found tons complately wrong with it. just to name one thing I found silly to have been written wrong. I happened to be perusing the index pages. I saw a listing for Erwin Rommel (or so I thought) it WAS supposed to be Erwin but the auther has him listed as EDWIN Rommel. THAT is a mistake I cannot excuse--let alone all the mistakes he made on ranks of certain German Officers and their units they commanded.

    For instance: The Commanding General for the 297th Infantry Division at Stalingrad was: Generalleutnant Pfeffer, NOT a General Drebbel (however the heck he came up with that name--I'll never know)
    Friedrich Paulus's assistant was Oberst Adam--in the book he is listed as a Major then later as an Oberst and even onetime as a General. We cant seem to make up our minds on what rank we want to give to OBERST Wilhelm Adam--can we?

    As for the movie--I loved it.
     
  15. Friedrich

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    Is there a book? :confused:

    Anyway, if it is so bad, don't even mention it...
     
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    The map on which the Germans(???) are looking is wrong.

    On this map Germany also has conquered Switzerland!!!!!
     
  17. redcoat

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    Braveheart, what a movie! [​IMG]
    Only Hollywood could re-inact the battle of Sterling Bridge, and leave out the BRIDGE :eek:

    :D :D

    [ 05 September 2002, 05:54 PM: Message edited by: redcoat ]
     
  18. Friedrich

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    Indeed, redcoat...

    There has been an enormous controverse about the bridge and about the faces painted in blue and the fact that William Wallace turns to be the father of Britain's greatest monarch: Edward III... And many other details, like Edward I the "Longshanks" died three years after the execution of William Wallace...

    However, the producers left the bridge away because there were not enough time and money nor an adequate location for the bridge. They actually found an ideal, medieval bridge, but they had to blow it and the Irish wouldn't have like that... So, they mixed both battles: Falkirk and Stirling to make another two different battles. But it is a great film, anyway. [​IMG]
     
  19. redcoat

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    Friedrich H "However, the producers left the bridge away because there were not enough time and money nor an adequate location for the bridge. They actually found an ideal, medieval bridge, but they had to blow it and the Irish wouldn't have like that... So, they mixed both battles: Falkirk and Stirling "

    Why would they have to blow it ? No gunpower weapons of any type were used in the battle. :confused:
     
  20. Friedrich

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    I bloody know! But the real Stirling bridge collapsed during the battle... why? I don't know, but it did. And they would have used explosives to make it collapse, in the very Hollywood way...
     

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