AREA 51

Roel does eat worms, but the Government won't release the pictures
I'm not saying anything about thong-collecting....

 

The Pentagon, IMO, is much happier having the population believe that there are aliens and UFOs harboured there. It most likely them who help the spread of the rumors of alien life and technology in Area 51. It keeps the people (and other countries) from knowing what kind of super powerful goodies the Militaries R&D team are cooking up.

 

Yeah, it's much better to have people going off on wild goose chases instead of seeing what's under their noses (from a damage-control point of view). If enough people are screaming Alien UFo then the pposition has to have a look at that alternative as well...

 

But how many people really do believe there is evidence of extraterrestrial life in Area 51? For a decoy I think it's not too powerful. It's easier to say that the US is devloping top secret aviation technology there, and that anyone who come to try and peek on it will be punished.

 

Theres something there , they'll shoot to kill if you step an inch with in the Area 51 boundry.

 

Surround the truth with a web of lies??

 

Exactly, it's black projects - new tech. IIRC the U-2 , SR-71 and F-117 were originally flown from there. The -117 was kept from the public for 10 years (and from the press - Roy Braybrook in Air International said he was invited to a press conference, presumably during the days when it was known as CSIRS (Covert Survivable In-weather Reconnaissance/ Strike), and the European press were told they could have the real story and not be allowed to publish, or a publishable but false story on the F-117).
Which sort of makes me wonder why they held the conference in the first place :-?

 

If you ask most people what the think about when they here the words Area 51, I bet most of them will say aliens/UFOs. Now whether those people actually believe the rumors are true, I don't know, but as long as people think of Area 51 as a harbour for exterrestial lifeforms and their technology, the exact truth of what goes on there is heavily obscure.

To add to the confusion, the US consistently claims that it has no knowledge of any alien lifeforms or technology. This is then countered by people who come forth and claimed to have worked at Area 51 and say that the rumors of alien life there is very true.

Who really knows what goes on there (besides those who work there of course ) but if the government is trying to hide something, albeit alien life or secret weapons, I would say they are doing a very good job.

 

... and who have very poor credentials and/or, despite their claims, knowledge of their so-called fields of expertise :lol:
Bob Lazar for one.
Yup, I think the US government is doing a really good job of secrets at Area 51/ Groom Lake. There's a heck of a lot of "smoke" and very little "fire" visible, no outsider knows for sure what's there.
I'm not even sure about PMN1's comment

They don't need to lie, all they have to do is let people make up their own minds and invent something. If you have a theory and I don't/ won't/ can't prove you are wrong am I lying? (Except by omission). The US doesn't need to start rumours, and short of giving everybody with even the slightest interest 24 hour 7 day a week 52 weeks a year access for life to all sites there's no way to prove that they haven't got UFOs/ aliens under lock and key.
I'm a big fan of aerospace technology and I would love to know the truth about Aurora etc (or UFOs for that matter), but I always think, okay, if I were in charge and I had this technology and these enemies (or potential enemies), would I let the information out. There are some things I believe should not go on general release. Although I can't think of a logical reason why UFO technology should be a secret if it exists...

 

To your inquiry, I have frequently come across a "theory" that claims that Area 51 was a base if you will for the Gray class aliens. In return for their scientific advancements (which I have yet to see), the government is secretly allowing them to abduct human beings and livestock, which supposedly the aliens need to survive.

This is a common revelation among people who claim to have seen the aliens while working at Area 51, although pieces of the story are often very vague and some are completely missing.

Oli, if you are really interested in this so called disinformation program by the various world governments, look into a book called "Revelations" by a French scientist named Jacques Vallee. His work is completely unbiased and it is an excellent read.

 

The Russkis are big on UFO's too..They make fanastic claims..

 

Strangely enough....
About six years ago there was a Channel 4 (UK TV) programme called Wierd Night - UFOs, ghosts, shoulies and similar. There was a clip of a Russian-filmed video somewhere near Moscow IIRC, two days later I collected that month's issue of Air International in which Dr David Baker had an article on USAF future projects, including a marvelously spiify type called an aero-lens diamond (hypersonic, EB-SCRAMjet [externally-burning-supersonic-combustion-ramjet]) recce aircraft and the article said it was one of many options the USAF were considering.
All well and except, being tired I'd set the video to record the programme from the start and gone to bed half way through.
Something clicked - I played the video, looked at the magazine, looked at the TV, looked at the magazine.
To me what was on the screen, over Moscow (filmed apparently 6 months previously) was the aircraft the USAF was supposedly trying to get funds for a test programme to build a wind-tunnel model and computer time. Hmmmm. I wonder :lol:

 

In the states a press conference was set up to talk about the pheonix sightings , when the program designer went to launch the site it was gone , his screen was just blank ! , somebody entered his computer and removed the server ! , another man took a very good video of the object with professional camera equipment , he contacted a local tv station to put his footage on the air , later on 2 men in suits claiming to be from the show said they needed the footage he took , naturally he gave it to them , trusting that they were from the show , later on when he told the shows producer what happened she said they weren't from the show.

 

Did they use "the flashy thing"?

 

They had the spiffy suits and shades.

 

Sorry Zhukov, only just noticed your footnote to me. I'll grab it and give a good read. I've heard of Vallee, but my main UFO days were about 35 years ago (got my first library ticket at age 7, joined 5 different libraries in town and visited each of them once a fortnight with a rucksack - 5 books from each. Started at Dewey 000 and worked my through for a couple of years, ahh, the joys of youth :lol: )
wasn't the "organ player" in Close Encounters (dreadful film it stopped at the interesting bit) supposed to be Vallee? Or based on him?

 

Yes, the French scientist in the movie was based on him. Vallee was a "technical" advisor for the film, so naturally they added a character based on him. But it was a good movie!