Battles of Cassino....

Carl :

His name is RK winner Lt. Arnold Döring. he flew as a bomber pilot and later in the Bf 109 with JG 300 and finishing flying the Ju 88G-6 nachtjäger during Unternehmen Gisela on march 4th 1945 and also several missions thereafter with his famous NJG 3. I think he had something like 23-25 Abschusse. A great guy and was very important to our research for our night fighter book, dealing with the single engine fighters, Fw 190 and Bf 109. A sad loss not just for us bout for all of the Luftwaffe community and others interested.

Horrido Arnold !



E.

 

Carl :

His name is RK winner Lt. Arnold Döring. He flew as a bomber pilot and later in the Bf 109 with JG 300 and finishing flying the Ju 88G-6 nachtjäger during Unternehmen Gisela on March 4th 1945 and also several missions thereafter with famous NJG 3. I think he had something like 23-25 Abschusse. A great guy and was very important to our research for our night fighter book, dealing with the single engine fighters, Fw 190 and Bf 109. A sad loss not just for us but for all of the Luftwaffe community and others interested.

Horrido Arnold !

he passed away on 10 April 2001 and was scheduled to meet two of my research partners at the beginning of the month of April in Germany, but due to health problems he could not make a mini reunion that we had planned for 15 Luftwaffe night fighter vets. Cause of death is unknown to me....

E.

 

Thanks Erich: Now I remember because I remember the date of his passing, I had forgotten that it was him--I think I posted it somewhere on this site-im sure I did.

Another gefallen adler.

 

Carl :

I do believe you have him listed on your massive RK winners liste. At least that is where I think I saw his name along with so many others. Again thank you for taking time to put that huge thing together.
I'll be posting the W-SS tank action soon.........

E.

 

Dear Erich: You are correct, I do have Doring on my list, and he is now marked as passing. So whenever Otto has the time to have the list back up for usage, I will make all my additions.

I was at Barnes and Nobles today. I saw a book for $15.00, which has an excellent listing of KC Luft pilot names. Not nearly all of them-just ones who had victories of 100 or more. I can cross check some more on my list to see who there is of the 100 and above club.

I wonder if Erich Hartmann is still living? I recently found a book at B&N, but didnt have enough cash on me to buy it The book was about his military and postwar careers. It didnt mention he had passed away, only that he is a very private person. If he still lives, I would love to get his signature.

Quite welcome, i'm glad someone other than Otto and myself-appreciates the time involved. Another thing is that, one of the other KC projects I want to do for this site, is going to take a looooong time to do. I also still have that, U-boat losses thing I was going to do, which will also take forever to do. Currently, I cannot find my Verlag losses book-damn it. I sure hope ite in my stuff somewhere, cause you cannot get this book anywhere else--unless that particular Verlag decides to reprint it, and then you have to buy all 5 volumes just to get the one you would need.

And I am DEFINATELY, looking forward about that Waffen SS tank battle info. I sure hope it turns out to be the same battle I heard about. If not-oh well, I will like it anyway.

 

Erich Hartmann died in 1993.
Adolf Galland died on February 9, 1996
Gerhard Barkhorn died on january 8, 1983
Günther Rall is alive and well.....
Otto Kittel KIA February 14 45
Walter Nowotny KIA November 8, 44
Wilhelm Batz.....?
Erich Rudorffer is alive and well
Heinz Bär a distant relative of mine, killed on April 28, 1957.
Hermann Graf died in 1988
Theodore Weissenberger died June 10, 1950
Hans Phillip KIA ocotober 8, 43
Walter Schuck alive and well

well I've quite an extensive listing of day fighter Luftwaffe boys.....

E.

 

Erich, thanks for this info especially on Hartmann. Damn....

This reminds me, did I ever send you ralls address? I cannot remember if I did so

 

Heinz Bar: you lucky devil you..

 

Hey bud ! I sent you Günther Ralls' adresse.....remember ? Ah probably not, you've onlly got more than 500 KC winners adresse's to look after......

E.

 

Sorry about that, I had had it about 2 or so yrs ago and it either got lost or tossed. Then not long ago, my friend Christian of Vienna, sent it to me also.

I think now that you can make the list of addresses around 550, including the deceased already on it.

I'm always forgetting sources on some stuff cause I get so much in daily. My main email I average 90-100 mails a day, my 1st backup email, I get about 30 emails a day, and my second backup I get from 1-6 a day

Plus now, my tummy is telling me to go get some food or it will be starting a riot. It will just have to wait since I see one or two other subjects I need to stick my nose into.

 

Check out www.nzetc.org you will find under the history section all the official histories of the 2nd New Zealand division fighting in WW2 including cassino.

They are very well written the editor in chief was Howard kippenberger who was the divisional commander of the division at Cassino until he lost his feet to a mine.

The books are a wealth of information and are not written in a bias way which i like personally.

 

There is an absolutely SPECTACULARLY good epidode on .... Cassino right now on tv's Military Channel:''WW2's Greatest Raids''
- A unit of Canadian and American Commandos take on heavily entrenched German Defenses.

Put it on your BUCKET LIST To WATCH. Good.

 

1 SF brigade takes on Monte Camino?

 

title 'MONTE CASSINO :TEN ARMIES IN HELL''..reading it now, as a matter of fact,,.....of course it goes into decisions about why, small section on the Sherman tank, a whole chapter on the Italian winter, etc....

 

Just finished Rick Atkinson's The Day of Battle which is about the Sicilian and Italian campaigns as a whole (up to the fall of Rome) and it devotes a lot of space to Cassino. Well worth the read.