Best Tank Destroyer

The Sturmgeschütz III had a lower profile, more armour and the same gun. I'd know which of the two to choose.

 

How did speed compare?
Was the armour difference made up by the fact that the Hetzer (sorry Christian) had a good slope?
Was the Hetzer smaller overall (length & width)?

Just wondering...

 

Armour (considering slope) is just about equal on the two tanks, on second thought. The StugIII still had about the same top speed as the Hetzer because of a nearly twice as powerful engine.

 

Ah-ha! so the 'Hetzer' is more economical...


Sorry Roel, just choosing a TD on the spur of the moment to drag the topic back on track, then trying hard to justify my choice

 

Well, I'm a fan of the StuGIII so I'm acting subjectively as well...

I thought it might be fun to reopen this topic for new members to give their opinion, and see if we can get the debate going again.

 

Id say the nashorn is the best tank destroyer all you need to do is put a shell through a tank then run not sit there and fight :smok:

 

but the nashorn is to high and thin armored, it was only a temp solution,
the jagdpanther is better in that, also equiped with the dreded 88 :smok:

 

The Jagdpanther was taller than the Nashorn, which was only 15 cm. taller than the Marder III. The armour of the Nashorn was thin, however it was meant for long-range engagements, so it didn't really need thick armour.

Christian

 

What about the M10 in british service with 17 pdr instead of the US 76mm gun..Achilles

 

Not bad, but a bit vulnerable compared to a Jagdpanther .

Hey, it would have been nice to have a Hellcat (M18?) equipped with a 17pdr...

 

That why the M36 Jackson had a 90mm..

 

That why the M36 Jackson had a 90mm..

I believe it was a better AT gun.

I think I read that.

prove me:

right/ wrong?

I will go look.

hmmm Tony>?

 

It was, IIRC, a slightly worse AT gun than the 17pdr, but better than the US 76mm.

I'm sure somebody on here can give us a handful of stats to show the real story!

 

http://www.dupuyinstitute.org/ubb/Forum ... 067-2.html

big thread. on upgunning the Sherman into the M36 90mm

 

Tony Williams , Chritian and KBO on the 17Pndr, 88 L71 & the US 90mm

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... c&start=15

KBO posted this:

1: 88mm L/71 with Pzgr40 : 1371m (1500y)= 201mm / 1830m (2000y)= 167mm / 2286m (2500y)= 153mm..

2: 90mm L/53 with HVAP : 1371m (1500y)= 177mm / 1830m (2000y)= 154mm...
The U.S. never tested thier tank guns at over 2000y....(same goes for the Brits)..
...Why...?? because of thier poor optics they were not able too effectivly engage enemy targets beyond 2000y...

3: 17pdr gun with APDS : 1371m (1500y)= 172-176mm / 1830m (2000y)= 145-161mm...

4: 88mm L/56 with Pzgr40 : 1371m (1500y)= 124-127mm / 1830m (2000y)= 110mm....



Tony does not disput this post?



1st shot counts most at @500m

 

Fact is that the Jagdpanther had the same gun as the Nashorn, so it would have been able to knock out enemy tanks at equal ranges; however, on top of that the Jagdpanther did have some thick sloped armour enabling it to act as anything up to close infantry support. A Nashorn would be little more than bait in such a situation. Therefore the Jagdpanther is simply better than the Nashorn, the only advantage of which is its gun.

 

True, but the Nashorn had theadvantage that it used the chassis ofa vehicle which was plannedtobe fased out.

Christian

 

The Nashorn was based on a hybred mark 3-4 chassis which was never mass produced, it was also open topped so lacked protection, it had thin armour and was only ever seen as a stopgap untill the fully enclosed version turned up i.e the Jag Panther.
Su 100 gets my vote better armed, smaller, faster. and still in use today !

 

Almost 500 Nashorns were made...

Christian

 

Baron is right all you need to do is put a shell through the tank and go to another spot as fast as you can